[Vision2020] Fwd: Breaking news from lmtribune.com

Sat May 14 18:20:02 PDT 2011

There are good samaritan laws, which shield such "good samaritans" from from
liability, in most (if not all) states.  Here's the law in Idaho:

http://www.legislature.idaho.gov/idstat/Title5/T5CH3SECT5-330.htm
http://www.legislature.idaho.gov/idstat/Title5/T5CH3SECT5-331.htm

-Reggie

On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 6:04 PM, Dan Carscallen <areaman at moscow.com> wrote:

> There are supposed to be "good Samaritan" laws in place to protect those
> who are trying to help, otherwise why would anyone bother trying in this
> litigious society?
>
> Of course, there are risks, as Wayne mentioned, but some of the worst are
> if there is some sort of spinal injury. But if it's a choice between burning
> to death or making a risky move, go ahead and move me.
>
> As an aside, whether it's for everyone's assurance or whatever, we are
> trained in "rapid extrication" techniques, but we are also trained that our
> safety comes first. We already have one patient, we don't want to get
> careless and create another.
>
> DC
>
> On May 14, 2011, at 17:34, "Art Deco" <deco at moscow.com> wrote:
>
>  Sometimes amateur help is disastrous.  Moving someone whose internal
> bleeding has clotted may cause it to begin again and thus cause death.
>
> w.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com>
> *To:* Reggie Holmquist <reggieholmquist at u.boisestate.edu>
> *Cc:* <vision2020 at moscow.com>vision2020 at moscow.com ; Donovan Arnold<donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
> *Sent:* Saturday, May 14, 2011 4:45 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Vision2020] Fwd: Breaking news from <http://lmtribune.com>
> lmtribune.com
>
>
> Didn't they even put laws in place to make sure that you couldn't be sued
> if you did help but made things worse?  Which is a legitimate concern if
> such laws were put in place.  Amateur help is not always better than no help
> at all.
>
> Paul
>
> On 05/14/2011 04:18 PM, Reggie Holmquist wrote:
>
> We covered this pretty extensively in Torts last semester.  There is no
> duty to help someone else unless you have a special relationship with that
> person (guardian, for example).  CPR certification does not create a duty
> that I am aware of.  If it did, that would only discourage people from
> getting CPR certification.
>
> -Reggie
>
> On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 3:57 PM, Donovan Arnold <<donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
> donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>   Tom,
>>
>> If you are CPR certified you are required to help.
>>
>>
>> Donovan Arnold
>>
>>
>> --- On *Sat, 5/14/11, Tom Hansen < <thansen at moscow.com>thansen at moscow.com
>> >* wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Tom Hansen < <thansen at moscow.com>thansen at moscow.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Fwd: Breaking news from lmtribune.com
>> To: "Donovan Arnold" < <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
>> donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>, "Joe Campbell" <<philosopher.joe at gmail.com>
>> philosopher.joe at gmail.com>, " <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>> vision2020 at moscow.com" < <vision2020 at moscow.com>vision2020 at moscow.com>
>> Date: Saturday, May 14, 2011, 1:23 PM
>>
>>
>> Donovan Arnold stated:
>>
>> "Nobody is morally or ethically responsible to prevent a bad event if
>> their action knowingly would result in something worse."
>>
>> In my opinion moral and ethical responsibility is determined individually.
>>
>> If I were fishing from a dock on Lake Coeur d'Alene and observed a child
>> slowly drowning . . . although I may not be legally responsible . . . I
>> would consider myself to be ethically and morally responsible to take
>> action to prevent the child from drowning.
>>
>> Footnote:  If I were fishing on a lake in Germany and observed a child
>> drowning, I WOULD BE legally responsible to take action to prevent the
>> child from drowning.  I could be arrested and jailed in Germany, but not
>> in the United States.  If you were to drive by an unattended accident and
>> didn't stop to offer help, you would be held criminally liable.
>>
>> Just some laws I think the US should consider.
>>
>> Tom Hansen
>> Moscow, Idaho
>>
>> "The Pessimist complains about the wind, the Optimist expects it to
>> changeand the Realist adjusts his sails."
>>
>> - Unknown
>>
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