[Vision2020] Angry Hens

Tom Hansen thansen at moscow.com
Fri May 6 09:00:36 PDT 2011


Just out of curiosity . . .

Does anybody know if court-ordered castration curtail the possibility of a
pedophile re-offending (especially in the case of a serial pedphile)?

Just a question.

Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho





On Fri, May 6, 2011 8:48 am, Ron Force wrote:
> I knew someone who unknowingly married a child molester. His mother didn't
> reveal his past, thought "he'd outgrown it", and of course, he didn't
> reveal his record (juvenile, and sealed).  A couple of years into the
> marriage, she discovered he'd been molesting friends' children that they
> had tended. She turned him in to the police, and divorced him. He got a
> long stretch in the pen. She got a long stretch in psychotherapy, as did
> the kids. It destroyed her friendships and changed the course of her life.
> She eventually had to leave town.
>
> Ugly stuff--I wish science or society had some answers.
>
>  
> Ron Force
> Moscow Idaho USA
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>
> To: Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com>
> Cc: "vision2020 at moscow.com" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Sent: Thursday, May 5, 2011 5:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Angry Hens
>
>
> Above, Paul writes: "I'm glad that his church elders are working with him
> in an attempt to improve his life."
>
>
> But that is the issue. HOW can the elders improve his life? What is the
> recidivism rate for sex offenders, child molesters? What is the recidivism
> rate for sex offenders or child molesters WHO RECEIVE TREATMENT? But
> somehow we're to believe that Doug Wilson can do better? Holy crap. This
> is the celebration ignorance gone too far.
>
> Kai writes: "As I argued before, it is the community's right to choose
> what is socially acceptable."
>
> But the pedophile shows that this view is BS. If the community says that
> it is socially acceptable for adults to have sex with children, the
> community is wrong. Period. No amount of philosophy is going to wreck this
> rule.
>
>
> This is the area where the right wing view of tolerance is shown to go too
> far. Church elders don't have the right to say that they are experts about
> human psychology merely because they are church elders. The idea that
> knowledge is socially constructed and that all viewpoints are equally
> valid is bogus and easily refuted (see pedophilia above). And dangerous.
>
> And how dare either of you tell Rose and others to shut up! There are at
> least five of us who find this news interesting and who are thankful for
> it. And two of you who think it is unworthy of public discussion.
>
> Let free speech reign and damn those who speak against it! Please use
> delete rather than edit the content of these pages.
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>>
>>> (Sing along Kai, Paul, Dougie, Dale.  You must know the words by now.)
>>
>>As divisive as you guys seem to be, I still consider myself "on your
>> team", more-or-less.  Meaning that I am far more liberal than I am
>> conservative, and have more in common with the "intoleristas" than I do
>> with Kai, Doug, and Dale.  .  We just disagree on a few things, most of
>> them having to do with the perceived importance of this one church. 
>> Though I do acknowledge that I agree with Kai and Dale on some occasions
>> (I haven't seen Doug posting anywhere), mostly having to do with
>> financial matters.  It would be nice if we didn't draw so many lines in
>> the sand.  We might see areas where we agree, and actually learn some
>> respect for each other.
>>
>>Paul
>>
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