[Vision2020] Angry Hens

[Ron Force]

I knew someone who unknowingly married a child molester. His mother didn't reveal his past, thought "he'd outgrown it", and of course, he didn't reveal his record (juvenile, and sealed).  A couple of years into the marriage, she discovered he'd been molesting friends' children that they had tended. She turned him in to the police, and divorced him. He got a long stretch in the pen. She got a long stretch in psychotherapy, as did the kids. It destroyed her friendships and changed the course of her life. She eventually had to leave town.

Ugly stuff--I wish science or society had some answers.

 
Ron Force
Moscow Idaho USA


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From: Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>
To: Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com>
Cc: "vision2020 at moscow.com" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 5, 2011 5:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Angry Hens


Above, Paul writes: "I'm glad that his church elders are working with him in an attempt to improve his life."


But that is the issue. HOW can the elders improve his life? What is the recidivism rate for sex offenders, child molesters? What is the recidivism rate for sex offenders or child molesters WHO RECEIVE TREATMENT? But somehow we're to believe that Doug Wilson can do better? Holy crap. This is the celebration ignorance gone too far.

Kai writes: "As I argued before, it is the community's right to choose what is socially acceptable." 

But the pedophile shows that this view is BS. If the community says that it is socially acceptable for adults to have sex with children, the community is wrong. Period. No amount of philosophy is going to wreck this rule.


This is the area where the right wing view of tolerance is shown to go too far. Church elders don't have the right to say that they are experts about human psychology merely because they are church elders. The idea that knowledge is socially constructed and that all viewpoints are equally valid is bogus and easily refuted (see pedophilia above). And dangerous.

And how dare either of you tell Rose and others to shut up! There are at least five of us who find this news interesting and who are thankful for it. And two of you who think it is unworthy of public discussion. 

Let free speech reign and damn those who speak against it! Please use delete rather than edit the content of these pages.



On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com> wrote:


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>> (Sing along Kai, Paul, Dougie, Dale.  You must know the words by now.)
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>As divisive as you guys seem to be, I still consider myself "on your team", more-or-less.  Meaning that I am far more liberal than I am conservative, and have more in common with the "intoleristas" than I do with Kai, Doug, and Dale.  .  We just disagree on a few things, most of them having to do with the perceived importance of this one church.  Though I do acknowledge that I agree with Kai and Dale on some occasions (I haven't seen Doug posting anywhere), mostly having to do with financial matters.  It would be nice if we didn't draw so many lines in the sand.  We might see areas where we agree, and actually learn some respect for each other.
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>Paul
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