[Vision2020] Angry Hens
Paul Rumelhart
godshatter at yahoo.com
Thu May 5 13:10:04 PDT 2011
Hey, it's just his rights after all. String him up by his thumbs for all I care. Just don't come bitching to me when someone decides to do it to you.
If there is a problem with the system, and I concur that there may well be, work within the system to change it. I'm behind that. I just don't see what good complaining vociferously about his upcoming wedding and links to Christ Church is going to do. I'm glad that his church elders are working with him in an attempt to improve his life. It's at least possible that this will have more of a positive effect on his behavior than, say, Tom's website will.
I would also like to say that I hate standing up for the rights of someone you don't agree with and getting painted with the same brush. I am in no way supporting anything at all about this guy except for his right to get married and associate with a pastor you don't like. If you think he shouldn't be allowed to get married or have kids, petition for a change in the law. It's possible I might even be convinced to join you, if you put forward a persuasive enough argument. But for now, he can do as he likes.
Paul
________________________________
From: Art Deco <deco at moscow.com>
To: Vision 2020 <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 5, 2011 11:32 AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Angry Hens
I guess we can now count Kai Eiselein and Paul Rumelhart among
those that see the problem of exposing the future children of Steven
Sitler to the highly probable risk described by the attached court document as
much less egregious than the problem of trying to prevent such a
tragedy.
The right to marry and sire fodder for highly probable
pedophilic perversions versus the right to speak out against such an
outrage. Sorry Kai and Paul, I'm not there.
Maybe Kai and Paul should join Prosecuting
Attorney William Thompson and Sheriff Wayne Rausch, two elected officials
who help to enable this debacle, and who now continue their very public
association and support of the Christ Church Cult.
Wayne A. Fox
1009 Karen Lane
PO Box 9421
Moscow, ID
83843
waf at moscow.com
208
882-7975
----- Original Message -----
>From: Rosemary Huskey
>To: 'Paul Rumelhart' ; 'Kai Eiselein'
>Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
>Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 10:21 PM
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Angry
Hens
>
>
>
>
>From:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] On Behalf Of Paul Rumelhart
>Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 9:57 PM
>To: Kai Eiselein
>Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Angry Hens
>
>
>I was going to reply along these lines, myself.
>
>We get it. You all hate Doug Wilson and his church, and anything
connected with it. But I like to follow the legal fiction that this guy
is free to do as he likes with regards to his personal relationships that are
not explicitly forbidden in his court documents (assuming, of course, that no
new laws are being broken), even if you all don't agree with it.
>
>I
mean, what exactly is the alternative? Stake him to the ground and let
the buzzards get him?
>
>Paul
>
>
>On 05/04/2011 08:44 PM, Kai
Eiselein wrote:
>All this from the "its nobody's business about who marries who" crowd.
>While Sitler's actions with children are a definate
concern to the community, I really don't see how who he marries, or who
marries him is anyone else's business, assuming she is an adult.
>Now, stop
acting like a bunch of gossiping women at the hairdresser and take your own
advice and butt the f--k out.
>
>
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>> Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 19:36:21 -0700 (PDT)
>>
From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
>>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Sitler Travis Wedding
>> To: "Rosemary Huskey" <donaldrose at cpcinternet.com>
>>
Cc: Moscow Vision 2020 <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>>
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>>
>> To quote one of
my favorite lines from "West Side Story" after Maria (one
>> of the
girlfriends of one of the Sharks' gang members) had gotten in Russ
>>
Tamblyn's (the leader of the Jets) face and unloaded on him, one of
the
>> Jets proclaims . . .
>>
>> "The girl's got
spunk!"
>>
>> Same at ya, Rose.
>>
>> Tom Hansen
>>
Moscow, Idaho
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 4, 2011
6:31 pm, Rosemary Huskey wrote:
>> > Visionaries,
>> >
>>
> About a month ago I published an email on V2020 addressed to Doug
Wilson
>> > and
>> > his elders regarding the forthcoming
marriage of Steven Sitler and Katie
>> > Travis <http://june11eleven.com/> . I specifically named the elders so
>> > that
>> > in their daily
out and about in Moscow you would know who they are and
>> >
what
>> > they represent. Now, I will answer some of the questions
that I
>> > (rhetorically) asked them. (They didn't bother to answer
me.) A degree of
>> > culpability for supporting this sacrilegious
"marriage" covers all of
>> > them,
>> > but some actors are
more deeply involved than others.
>> >
>> > The following list
of elders (with the exception of John Grauke - who
>> > depends on the
Kirk to supply patients to him so is beholden indirectly to
>> > Doug)
are employed by Kirk owned or allied ventures. Nothing keeps the
>> >
toadies in line like a regular pay check. Ben Merkle is on the faculty
of
>> > New Saint Andrews and is married to Doug's eldest daughter,
who
>> > mysteriously
>> > refers to her father as a
Presbyterian minister on press releases for her
>> > business
>>
> <http://www.ttfabrics.net/cgi-bin/fabricshop/designer.cgi?designer=71> .
>> > When did that ordination happen, Doug? Gordon Wilson is Doug's
brother.
>> >
>> > Dale Courtney, Dr. John Grauke, Matt Gray,
Ed Iverson, Mike Lawyer, Csaba
>> > Leidenfrost, Ben Merkle, Jim
Nance, John Sawyer, Wes Struble, Matt
>> > Whitling,
>> > and
Gordon Wilson, and Pastor Doug Wilson
>> >
>> > Katie Travis
and Steven Sitler are "grateful" to NSA librarian and church
>> >
elder Ed Iverson and his wife <http://june11eleven.com/?page_id=114> for
>> > arranging their meeting and supporting their courtship. It is
disturbing
>> > to
>> > learn that Miss Travis had known Mr.
and Mrs. Iverson for many years prior
>> > to her arrival at NSA. She
boarded with them during her NSA tenure. I
>> > know
>> >
there is a word for a person who procures women for men, but I don't
know
>> > the word for someone who engineers a marriage with a serial
pedophile. It
>> > is true that Miss Travis asked Ed Iverson to find a
suitable husband for
>> > her, but I can't imagine she meant a child
molesting felon.
>> >
>> > I wondered if her home church
pastor was aware of this travesty. Silly
>> > me.
>> > Of
course he was aware. Click on the links for more info on Tim Tucker.
>>
> The
>> > bolding in the bottom line of his vita is mine.
>>
>
>> > "Pastor Rev. Tim Tucker <http://www.logosfallon.com/staff/tucker.php> was
>> > born in Sandpoint, Idaho, but grew-up in Connell, Washington
with an older
>> > brother. If he could live anywhere it would be
"Right here in Fallon, I
>> > love
>> > it here!" Tim is the
Pastor of Immanuel Presbyterian Church here in
>> > Fallon,
>>
> and also serves as the Headmaster of our school. Tim teaches at LCA
[Logos
>> > Christian Academy] because he wants to see generational
growth in God's
>> > Kingdom in Fallon. In his free time he likes to
date his wife, play with
>> > his
>> > children and read. Tim
is married to Carleen (for 34 years), and they have
>> > eleven
blessed children: Heather, Heidi, Holly, Forrest, Hillary, Hannah,
>>
> Fred, Ford, Freeman, Finn and Hallie. He is also the proud grandpa of
nine
>> > grandchildren with another on the way! Mr. Tucker is
committed to
>> > classical
>> > education and to the work of
rearing up children in the ways of the Lord.
>> > He has been involved
in education from a Christian perspective for over 25
>> > years. He
has lived in Fallon since 2001.
>> > Education:
>> > B.A.
(Religion and Philosophy) from Northwest Nazarene University
>> >
Fellow of Greyfriar's Hall, Moscow, ID (M.Div. equivalent)
>>
>
>> > What's with the Pastor Rev. crapola? I don't see any
evidence that a
>> > genuine (recognized by a national affiliation)
Presbyterian church
>> > ordained
>> > him. Perhaps it is the
same church that laid hands on Doug. Or, could it
>> > be
>> >
that he is claiming affiliation with a respected denomination to boost
his
>> > own rather rickety credentials? And yes, it is not accidental
that fat
>> > old
>> > Friar Tuck has also started a Logos
clone. School start up is part of the
>> > requirements for graduation
from Doug's pseudo-seminary, Greyfriar's Hall.
>> > (Note the loop
effect, Greyfriar graduates have to start up a Logos style
>> > school
which in turn must pay to join Doug's school accreditation business
>>
> the Association of Classical Christian Schools <http://www.accsedu.org/> .
>>
> Kirkers may claim it's about a worldview, but since money is part of
every
>> > transaction, it really is all about the money. Can you
smell the pyramid
>> > scheme lurking in the background?)
>>
>
>> > If you know anyone if Fallon, Nevada who is looking for a
church home, I'd
>> > sure as heck steer them away from this one. If
you'd like to ask Pastor
>> > Rev. Tucker what led him down this path
his email is:
>> > friartuck53 at cccomm.net). Don't expect an answer though; he is not
>> > interested in explaining his role in
this ungodly marriage. Taking
>> > responsibility for bad behavior has
never been a high priority in CREC
>> > (Confederation of Reformed
Evangelical Churches - Doug Wilson's home-grown
>> > invention of
like-minded individuals.) Incidentally, CREC utilizes a
>> >
presbyterian [note the small "p" it is an adjective not a noun] style
of
>> > church governance. Capitalizing the P does not mean that they
meet any of
>> > the requirements for ordination, nor are they
associated with nationally
>> > recognized Presbyterian churches. For
example, they are not, absolutely
>> > not, associated with the real
live local Presbyterian Church. Does anyone
>> > think for a moment
that because I live in a town called Moscow; saw the
>> > movie Black
Swan; and conduct ballet classes on my back patio, that I am
>> >
somehow entitled to describe my pretend classes as an extension school
of
>> > the Bolshi? Same deal, and just as ridiculous as Doug's loony
claim.
>> >
>> > Speaking of ministers, how 'bout Pastor Eby
of our local Nazarene Church?
>> > What makes him tick? Why in the
world did he get involved with this mess?
>> > If he didn't know about
Sitler's crimes when the church was rented, he
>> > certainly knows
now. I wonder what his congregation thinks about this use
>> > of
their church? It kinda reminds me of the warning in Matthew 21:12
>> > <http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+21&version=NIV> . I
>> > don't have a doubt in the world that Pastor Eby would be
unwilling to
>> > rent
>> > his church to a person who is a
notorious abortion provider. I have
>> > always
>> > wondered
why there is an overwhelming concern to protect the unborn
>> >
"child"
>> > but not so much for babies after birth. Steven Sitler has
in effect
>> > murdered the spirits of countless children
>> >
<http://www.findcounseling.com/journal/child-abuse/survivors-childhood-abuse
>>
> .html> but I guess that doesn't count when someone pays top dollar to
use
>> > the sanctuary. (Doug Wilson will perform the
service.)
>> >
>> > Are you seeing the pattern of spiritually
corrupt CREC ministers in this
>> > mess? As to the parents of both
the bride and groom - they are beyond
>> > shame, I get that. No
father in his right mind would give his permission
>> > (which is
generally required in CREC marriages) to this grotesque match.
>> >
As
>> > far as the Sitler seniors are concerned, they appear to be
ecstatic that
>> > they are marrying off that nasty piece of work they
hatched. They have
>> > left
>> > their old church
>>
> <http://www.tomandrodna.com/CR_2005_02027/Private_Letter.htm> - the one
>> > that dis-fellowed Steven when he admitted to molesting
children (including
>> > at least one in their congregation) - in
favor of a new CREC church
>> > <http://knox.crecpresbytery.org/> plant in Colville. Everywhere I look I
>> > see the footprints of Doug
Wilson's size 14 combat boots.
>> >
>> > And here is the point
of this series of emails. When Doug and the boys
>> > rip
>> >
off community members in Moscow by running gambling casinos, illegal
>>
> boarding houses, plunking a college and an under-the-radar boys school
in
>> > central Moscow, or not paying taxes when they rented space to
for- profit
>> > businesses on tax free property they are a pain in
the ass. And, yes,
>> > thanks to the lack of backbones the city
council let them get by with
>> > their
>> > self-entitled
bull shit. The Daily News has had a long-term love affair
>> > with
all things Kirkish for years. A bottle of wine goes a long way to
>> >
buying good press I guess. Again, annoying but not worth much more in
the
>> > long run than throwing up ones hands and sighing. I know that
calling out
>> > the Kirk is risky business. And, most folks have the
mother wit not to
>> > get
>> > involved. After all, there is
a price to pay for pointing out their
>> > nastiness. Saundra and I,
not to mention Tom Hanson, are keenly aware of
>> > this. But we won't
stop - silence is acquiescence and we would be ashamed
>> > of
ourselves if we cut and ran when things get a uncomfortable.
>> >
(Curiously,
>> > shame is a motivator for us, but Kirkers, not so
much.)
>> >
>> > This wedding is a different kettle of fish -
it involves so much more than
>> > cheap chiselers thumbing their
noses at city regulations. This is the
>> > culmination of years of
unrelenting propaganda that preaches the sole
>> > purpose of women on
this earth is to marry and breed. Of course Miss
>> > Travis
>>
> wants a husband, how could she be a real grown up without one?
Getting
>> > married means that God is blessing you. Failure to snag a
husband means
>> > that
>> > no matter what else you
accomplish, you are a failure, half a person,
>> > incomplete, in the
eyes of the faithful. This unrelenting message leads
>> > foolish
young woman like Miss Travis to become engaged on a second date to
>>
> a
>> > really creepy criminal. Her obsessive desire to be married
is heart
>> > breaking on many levels.
>> >
>> > But,
my sympathy for Miss Travis, although sincere, has to be measured
>> >
against what I am sure is her desire to have children. Someone has to
be
>> > the advocate for the (potential) children of this union. It is
clear that
>> > neither set of grandparents give a damn about what
could happen to
>> > children
>> > in the home of a serial
pedophile. Their lack of concern rules them out
>> > as
>> >
responsible parents or grandparents. There is no way on this earth
that
>> > Miss Travis, who after all is choosing to marry a molester
of toddlers,
>> > is
>> > competent to protect her babies.
(Think about it, how likely is it that
>> > she
>> > will turn
him in when, if convicted, he will spend the rest of his life in
>> >
prison?)
>> >
>> > And so, as unpleasant as it is, these
emails are my only hope that at
>> > least
>> > our community
(and anyone who googles the names in this email) will be
>> >
aware
>> > of what is happening June 11, 2011, thanks to the principal
enablers in
>> > this
>> > hellish drama. Stand up and take a
bow parents, Don and Betsy Travis;
>> > Roxanne and Dave Sitler;
"adopted grandparents" Ed and Paula Iverson; and
>> > pastors Doug
Wilson; Tim Tucker; and to a lesser extent Ed Eby. The
>> >
elders
>> > in both CREC churches who support this marriage also bear
a responsibility
>> > for going along to get along. Once again, please
remember the names of
>> > Christ Church elders in Moscow:
>>
>
>> > Dale Courtney, Dr. John Grauke, Matt Gray, Ed Iverson, Mike
Lawyer, Csaba
>> > Leidenfrost, Ben Merkle, Jim Nance, John Sawyer,
Wes Struble, Matt
>> > Whitling,
>> > and Gordon Wilson, and
Pastor Doug Wilson
>> >
>> > for they are men who
promoted/protected evil to achieve God only knows
>> > what. (One
can't help but speculate if ample donations to the New Saint
>> >
Andrews library have appeared over the last six months) I can say
>> >
unequivocally, not a one of them would have permitted Steven Sitler to
>>
> marry
>> > their own daughters. Sadly, Miss Travis was groomed by
these jackasses,
>> > and
>> > their CREC brothers to be
expendable.
>> >
>> > Rose Huskey
>> >
>>
>
>> >
>> >
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Wed,
4 May 2011 20:05:07 -0700
>> From: "Art Deco" <deco at moscow.com>
>> Subject: Re:
[Vision2020] Sitler Travis Wedding
>> To: "Vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>>
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>> Rose,
>>
>> Thank you for an excellent post giving the facts and exposing the
egregious, sacrilegious lack of moral values exhibited by the parties
involved. I agree with what you say, perhaps even with stronger feelings of
anger, disgust, and deep sorrow for the victims past and present.
>>
>> Let us not forget the non-cult locals who have enabled this fetid
union and its consequences by their laziness, ineptitude, lack of judgment,
and lack of compassion for the victims of pedophiles, past present, and
future: Prosecutor William Thompson, Sheriff Wayne Rausch, and Judge John
Stegner.
>>
>> As citizens we have no control over the twisted,
morally depraved crackpots that rule and people the hierarchy of the Christ
Church Cult. But we do have the power and control at the polls to oust the
public officials who are enablers of pedophilia. We need to use this
power.
>>
>>
>> Wayne A. Fox
>> 1009 Karen Lane
>>
PO Box 9421
>> Moscow, ID 83843
>>
>> waf at moscow.com
>> 208 882-7975
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Rosemary Huskey
>>
To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>>
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 6:31 PM
>> Subject: [Vision2020] Sitler
Travis Wedding
>>
>>
>> Visionaries,
>>
>> About a
month ago I published an email on V2020 addressed to Doug Wilson and his
elders regarding the forthcoming marriage of Steven Sitler and Katie Travis. I
specifically named the elders so that in their daily out and about in Moscow
you would know who they are and what they represent. Now, I will answer some
of the questions that I (rhetorically) asked them. (They didn't bother to
answer me.) A degree of culpability for supporting this sacrilegious
"marriage" covers all of them, but some actors are more deeply involved than
others.
>>
>> The following list of elders (with the exception of
John Grauke - who depends on the Kirk to supply patients to him so is beholden
indirectly to Doug) are employed by Kirk owned or allied ventures. Nothing
keeps the toadies in line like a regular pay check. Ben Merkle is on the
faculty of New Saint Andrews and is married to Doug's eldest daughter, who
mysteriously refers to her father as a Presbyterian minister on press releases
for her business. When did that ordination happen, Doug? Gordon Wilson is
Doug's brother.
>>
>> Dale Courtney, Dr. John Grauke, Matt Gray, Ed
Iverson, Mike Lawyer, Csaba Leidenfrost, Ben Merkle, Jim Nance, John Sawyer,
Wes Struble, Matt Whitling, and Gordon Wilson, and Pastor Doug Wilson
>>
>> Katie Travis and Steven Sitler are "grateful" to NSA librarian and
church elder Ed Iverson and his wife for arranging their meeting and
supporting their courtship. It is disturbing to learn that Miss Travis had
known Mr. and Mrs. Iverson for many years prior to her arrival at NSA. She
boarded with them during her NSA tenure. I know there is a word for a person
who procures women for men, but I don't know the word for someone who
engineers a marriage with a serial pedophile. It is true that Miss Travis
asked Ed Iverson to find a suitable husband for her, but I can't imagine she
meant a child molesting felon.
>>
>> I wondered if her home church
pastor was aware of this travesty. Silly me. Of course he was aware. Click on
the links for more info on Tim Tucker. The bolding in the bottom line of his
vita is mine.
>>
>> "Pastor Rev. Tim Tucker was born in Sandpoint,
Idaho, but grew-up in Connell, Washington with an older brother. If he could
live anywhere it would be "Right here in Fallon, I love it here!" Tim is the
Pastor of Immanuel Presbyterian Church here in Fallon, and also serves as the
Headmaster of our school. Tim teaches at LCA [Logos Christian Academy] because
he wants to see generational growth in God's Kingdom in Fallon. In his free
time he likes to date his wife, play with his children and read. Tim is
married to Carleen (for 34 years), and they have eleven blessed children:
Heather, Heidi, Holly, Forrest, Hillary, Hannah, Fred, Ford, Freeman, Finn and
Hallie. He is also the proud grandpa of nine grandchildren with another on the
way! Mr. Tucker is committed to classical education and to the work of rearing
up children in the ways of the Lord. He has been involved in education from a
Christian perspective for over 25 years. He has lived in Fallon since
2001.
>> Education:
>> B.A. (Religion and Philosophy) from Northwest
Nazarene University
>> Fellow of Greyfriar's Hall, Moscow, ID (M.Div.
equivalent)
>>
>> What's with the Pastor Rev. crapola? I don't see
any evidence that a genuine (recognized by a national affiliation)
Presbyterian church ordained him. Perhaps it is the same church that laid
hands on Doug. Or, could it be that he is claiming affiliation with a
respected denomination to boost his own rather rickety credentials? And yes,
it is not accidental that fat old Friar Tuck has also started a Logos clone.
School start up is part of the requirements for graduation from Doug's
pseudo-seminary, Greyfriar's Hall. (Note the loop effect, Greyfriar graduates
have to start up a Logos style school which in turn must pay to join Doug's
school accreditation business the Association of Classical Christian Schools.
Kirkers may claim it's about a worldview, but since money is part of every
transaction, it really is all about the money. Can you smell the pyramid
scheme lurking in the background?)
>>
>> If you know anyone if
Fallon, Nevada who is looking for a church home, I'd sure as heck steer them
away from this one. If you'd like to ask Pastor Rev. Tucker what led him down
this path his email is: friartuck53 at cccomm.net). Don't expect an answer though; he is not interested in explaining his role in this ungodly marriage. Taking responsibility for bad behavior has never been a high priority in CREC (Confederation of Reformed Evangelical Churches - Doug Wilson's home-grown invention of like-minded individuals.) Incidentally, CREC utilizes a presbyterian [note the small "p" it is an adjective not a noun] style of church governance. Capitalizing the P does not mean that they meet any of the requirements for ordination, nor are they associated with nationally recognized Presbyterian churches. For example, they are not, absolutely not, associated with the real live local Presbyterian Church. Does anyone think for a moment that because I live in a town called Moscow; !
>> saw the movie Black Swan; and conduct ballet classes on my back
patio, that I am somehow entitled to describe my pretend classes as an
extension school of the Bolshi? Same deal, and just as ridiculous as Doug's
loony claim.
>>
>> Speaking of ministers, how 'bout Pastor Eby of
our local Nazarene Church? What makes him tick? Why in the world did he get
involved with this mess? If he didn't know about Sitler's crimes when the
church was rented, he certainly knows now. I wonder what his congregation
thinks about this use of their church? It kinda reminds me of the warning in
Matthew 21:12. I don't have a doubt in the world that Pastor Eby would be
unwilling to rent his church to a person who is a notorious abortion provider.
I have always wondered why there is an overwhelming concern to protect the
unborn "child" but not so much for babies after birth. Steven Sitler has in
effect murdered the spirits of countless children but I guess that doesn't
count when someone pays top dollar to use the sanctuary. (Doug Wilson will
perform the service.)
>>
>> Are you seeing the pattern of
spiritually corrupt CREC ministers in this mess? As to the parents of both the
bride and groom - they are beyond shame, I get that. No father in his right
mind would give his permission (which is generally required in CREC marriages)
to this grotesque match. As far as the Sitler seniors are concerned, they
appear to be ecstatic that they are marrying off that nasty piece of work they
hatched. They have left their old church - the one that dis-fellowed Steven
when he admitted to molesting children (including at least one in their
congregation) - in favor of a new CREC church plant in Colville. Everywhere I
look I see the footprints of Doug Wilson's size 14 combat boots.
>>
>> And here is the point of this series of emails. When Doug and the
boys rip off community members in Moscow by running gambling casinos, illegal
boarding houses, plunking a college and an under-the-radar boys school in
central Moscow, or not paying taxes when they rented space to for- profit
businesses on tax free property they are a pain in the ass. And, yes, thanks
to the lack of backbones the city council let them get by with their
self-entitled bull shit. The Daily News has had a long-term love affair with
all things Kirkish for years. A bottle of wine goes a long way to buying good
press I guess. Again, annoying but not worth much more in the long run than
throwing up ones hands and sighing. I know that calling out the Kirk is risky
business. And, most folks have the mother wit not to get involved. After all,
there is a price to pay for pointing out their nastiness. Saundra and I, not
to mention Tom Hanson, are keenly aware of this. But we won't stop - silence
!
>> is acquiescence and we would be ashamed of ourselves if we cut and
ran when things get a uncomfortable. (Curiously, shame is a motivator for us,
but Kirkers, not so much.)
>>
>> This wedding is a different kettle
of fish - it involves so much more than cheap chiselers thumbing their noses
at city regulations. This is the culmination of years of unrelenting
propaganda that preaches the sole purpose of women on this earth is to marry
and breed. Of course Miss Travis wants a husband, how could she be a real
grown up without one? Getting married means that God is blessing you. Failure
to snag a husband means that no matter what else you accomplish, you are a
failure, half a person, incomplete, in the eyes of the faithful. This
unrelenting message leads foolish young woman like Miss Travis to become
engaged on a second date to a really creepy criminal. Her obsessive desire to
be married is heart breaking on many levels.
>>
>> But, my sympathy
for Miss Travis, although sincere, has to be measured against what I am sure
is her desire to have children. Someone has to be the advocate for the
(potential) children of this union. It is clear that neither set of
grandparents give a damn about what could happen to children in the home of a
serial pedophile. Their lack of concern rules them out as responsible parents
or grandparents. There is no way on this earth that Miss Travis, who after all
is choosing to marry a molester of toddlers, is competent to protect her
babies. (Think about it, how likely is it that she will turn him in when, if
convicted, he will spend the rest of his life in prison?)
>>
>>
And so, as unpleasant as it is, these emails are my only hope that at least
our community (and anyone who googles the names in this email) will be aware
of what is happening June 11, 2011, thanks to the principal enablers in this
hellish drama. Stand up and take a bow parents, Don and Betsy Travis; Roxanne
and Dave Sitler; "adopted grandparents" Ed and Paula Iverson; and pastors Doug
Wilson; Tim Tucker; and to a lesser extent Ed Eby. The elders in both CREC
churches who support this marriage also bear a responsibility for going along
to get along. Once again, please remember the names of Christ Church elders in
Moscow:
>>
>> Dale Courtney, Dr. John Grauke, Matt Gray, Ed
Iverson, Mike Lawyer, Csaba Leidenfrost, Ben Merkle, Jim Nance, John Sawyer,
Wes Struble, Matt Whitling, and Gordon Wilson, and Pastor Doug Wilson
>>
>> for they are men who promoted/protected evil to achieve God only
knows what. (One can't help but speculate if ample donations to the New Saint
Andrews library have appeared over the last six months) I can say
unequivocally, not a one of them would have permitted Steven Sitler to marry
their own daughters. Sadly, Miss Travis was groomed by these jackasses, and
their CREC brothers to be expendable.
>>
>> Rose Huskey
>>
>>
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