[Vision2020] American arrogance and arms accounting (was: NPR)

Joe Campbell philosopher.joe at gmail.com
Wed Mar 30 21:02:44 PDT 2011


Well, I'm not blaming the tea party for our problems! I've criticized them
but I don't think I've picked out any group and blamed our problems on them
in the way that you've done with baby-boomers below. I think most of our
problems are the result of the two-term idiot we had as president but even
he is not responsible for a lot that led to our recession. I blame the tea
baggers for blaming liberals for our problems in the same general way that
you blame baby-boomers.

On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 4:41 PM, Donovan Arnold <
donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Yes Joe, I blame the Babyboomer generation as opposed to blaming a
> political group that has existed for less than a few years for being the
> cause of all of America's problems.
>
> I don't think the Teaparty, for as annoying and wrong as they are, have any
> real influence on current and past major events leading to the
> insurmountable debt and problems we face today. Perhaps you can explain how
> they are and the Babyboomers were not?
>
> Donovan Arnold
>
>
> --- On *Wed, 3/30/11, Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] American arrogance and arms accounting (was: NPR)
> To: "Donovan Arnold" <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
> Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Date: Wednesday, March 30, 2011, 4:27 PM
>
> Right. Blame a generation. That's helpful.
>
> On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 4:09 PM, Donovan Arnold <
> donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com<http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
>
>   I just think a lot of the fraud and financial crisis is the result of
> the Babyboomers. You cannot really tag it on any one particular political
> group, or one person. Babyboomers have spend more money than any other
> generation before it, including those that fought WWII. They have indebted
> the nation beyond the capability of future generations to pay back and live
> any type of quality of life. They have burned more fuel then all the
> previous generation before or after combined. I won't even get into the
> environmental disasters they have plagued the world over with. They have
> behaved as greedy pigs at the trough. With the trough being the fruits of
> labor of previous and future generations.
>
> Donovan Arnold
>
> --- On *Wed, 3/30/11, Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com<http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=philosopher.joe@gmail.com>
> >* wrote:
>
>
> From: Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com<http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=philosopher.joe@gmail.com>
> >
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] American arrogance and arms accounting (was: NPR)
> To: "Kenneth Marcy" <kmmos1 at frontier.com<http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=kmmos1@frontier.com>
> >
> Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com<http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vision2020@moscow.com>
> Date: Wednesday, March 30, 2011, 3:06 PM
>
> Thanks, Ken. This is exactly why I can't take criticisms of NPR seriously.
> How many times does Roger complain about about how we don't have enough
> money? Yet how little does he talk about the kinds of waste that you note
> below, wastes from the military and monetary losses caused by unchecked
> members of the business community? If it were really about MONEY we'd get
> criticisms of more than NPR and education. And the fact is once you do away
> with adequate news sources and gut American education it is going to be a
> lot harder for the average folk to spot the lies and fallacies of the tea
> baggers.
>
> On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 2:45 PM, Kenneth Marcy <kmmos1 at frontier.com<http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=kmmos1@frontier.com>
> > wrote:
>
> On Wednesday 30 March 2011 13:05:19 Joe Campbell wrote:
> > We're not spending too much on NPR! We spend more bombing Libya in one
> day
> > than a year's worth of NPR! I don't see any good arguments supporting
> your
> > case. That's all.
>
> American aggression overseas, however much it may be in aid of moral
> causes,
> is unmatched by its awful armaments accounting at home. If one wishes to be
> aware of the most egregious levels of American aggression, look at the
> artless
> accounting appeasement that has continued for decades among those who claim
> accounting and auditing expertise and the American military establishment.
>
> The military-industrial complex of contractors and their aides,
> accomplices,
> and accessories have failed to produce understandable, comprehensive,
> audited
> financial statements for American military activities for as long as anyone
> can
> remember. This financial and managerial reporting void should be a source
> of
> perpetual embarrassment to anyone who claims to have any sense of federal
> fiscal or taxpayer concern.
>
>
> Ken
>
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