[Vision2020] Firearms Bill Worries Campus

[Sunil Ramalingam]

Booze isn't allowed in but gets in anyway, either inside spectators, or smuggled in. 

Sunil

> From: areaman at moscow.com
> To: suehovey at moscow.com; lfalen at turbonet.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 12:53:44 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Firearms Bill Worries Campus
> 
> Sue,
> 
> I think there's still no booze *in* the dome, but we do have the tailgating going on.
> 
> Also, I think the new high-zoot seating area may have alcohol, but it may be more of a "bottle service" type of deal.  I can't afford to sit there so I'm not all that worried about it.
> 
> DC
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] On Behalf Of Sue Hovey
> Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 12:48 PM
> To: lfalen; vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Firearms Bill Worries Campus
> 
> Oh what a great political cartoon that would make.  Think of the angles.
> I thought we had a no alcohol policy. Are you saying there are some who violate it?  And they would willingly check their guns?
> Guns should be checked at home. This is a stupid, stupid bill, but can anyone think of anything that passed this session so far that isn't?
> SueH
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lfalen
> Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 7:27 AM
> To: Tom Hansen ; Moscow Vision 2020
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Firearms Bill Worries Campus
> 
> There is a lot of booze at athletic events. Guns should be checked at the door.
> Roger
> -----Original message-----
> From: "Tom Hansen" thansen at moscow.com
> Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 08:31:04 -0700
> To: "Moscow Vision 2020" vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: [Vision2020] Firearms Bill Worries Campus
> 
> > "If it becomes law, . . . Guns would be allowed at athletic events."
> >
> > Kinda adds a whole new dimension to college "rivalry", huh?
> >
> > Idea for t-shirt text:  Nasty, Inebriated, and Armed
> >
> > Courtesy of today's (March 20, 2011) Spokesman-Review.
> >
> > -------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Firearms bill worries campus
> > Boise State says events would be jeopardized
> >
> > BOISE – Boise State University could lose hundreds of thousands of 
> > dollars in revenue from lost sporting and entertainment events if 
> > Idaho lawmakers approve a bill to allow guns on college campuses, a school official says.
> >
> > Bruce Newcomb, the university’s director of government affairs and a 
> > former speaker of the Idaho House, said such a law could jeopardize 
> > hosting events such as the NCAA men’s basketball tournament and the 
> > scheduled 2012 NCAA Division I men’s and women’s indoor track and 
> > field championships.
> >
> > “We’re convinced this is going to interfere with those endeavors,” 
> > Newcomb told the Idaho Statesman.
> >
> > The Idaho House on Wednesday approved a bill that would allow firearms 
> > on public university and college campuses. It now goes to the Senate.
> >
> > If it becomes law, it would prohibit schools from banning firearms, 
> > either carried openly or by people with concealed weapons permits, 
> > anywhere on campus except in undergraduate residence halls. Guns would 
> > be allowed at athletic events.
> >
> > Idaho law now gives university and college presidents authority to 
> > prohibit firearms on campus. Boise State University, Idaho State 
> > University, the University of Idaho, Lewis-Clark State College and 
> > several community colleges throughout the state have adopted their own 
> > regulations to prohibit guns on campus.
> >
> > Rep. Marv Hagedorn, R-Meridian, co-sponsored the current legislation 
> > and disagrees that schools would experience any negative 
> > ramifications. He also wondered how the school knows guns aren’t being 
> > taken on campus already, especially because he said he’s often carried 
> > guns to Boise State venues.
> >
> > “My question would be to Boise State: How do they know people aren’t 
> > carrying guns there now? None of those venues have metal detectors. 
> > They don’t say to the visitors or the ticket-holders, ‘Don’t bring 
> > your guns because this is a gun-free zone,’ ” Hagedorn said. “I 
> > have never seen anything. I have carried to a lot of those venues, and 
> > I did not know the policy, nor did I see any signs.”
> >
> > Boise State spokesman Frank Zang said the campus has more than 1 
> > million visits annually by people attending hundreds of sports, 
> > cultural and entertainment events.
> >
> > “We are concerned that allowing guns on campus would have an adverse 
> > effect on attracting these events to Boise,” he said. “The industry 
> > standard does not allow weapons in the facilities.”
> >
> > Creston Thornton, a concert promoter with CT Touring, said weapons are 
> > not allowed at concerts either. Taco Bell Arena, on the Boise State 
> > campus, has hosted concerts by the Dave Matthews Band, Toby Keith, 
> > Metallica and Journey.
> >
> > “We don’t even allow glass bottles because they can be used as weapons.
> > It’s just assumed there’s a no-weapons policy,” said Thornton.
> >
> > Rep. Erik Simpson, R-Idaho Falls, said passing a law allowing guns on 
> > campus would not stop the NCAA men’s basketball tournament from coming 
> > to Boise State, where early-round games have been held eight times 
> > since 1983, most recently in 2009.
> >
> > But the NCAA in its 2009 operating manual for the tournament states 
> > that “firearms and explosives of any kind are not permitted.”
> >
> > The University of Utah, however, held part of the NCAA women’s 
> > gymnastics championship. Utah does not allow firearms bans on college campuses.
> >
> > “It’s a red herring,” said Simpson. “There is no truth to it. It is 
> > not a condition of them appearing on a campus. It’s a guideline. It’s a policy.
> > I don’t think policy is going to trump state law.”
> >
> > -------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Seeya round town, Moscow.
> >
> > Tom Hansen
> > Moscow, Idaho
> >
> > "The Pessimist complains about the wind, the Optimist expects it to 
> > change and the Realist adjusts his sails."
> >
> > - Unknown
> >
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