[Vision2020] Firearms Bill Worries Campus

Dan Carscallen areaman at moscow.com
Mon Mar 21 12:53:44 PDT 2011


Sue,

I think there's still no booze *in* the dome, but we do have the tailgating going on.

Also, I think the new high-zoot seating area may have alcohol, but it may be more of a "bottle service" type of deal.  I can't afford to sit there so I'm not all that worried about it.

DC

-----Original Message-----
From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] On Behalf Of Sue Hovey
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 12:48 PM
To: lfalen; vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Firearms Bill Worries Campus

Oh what a great political cartoon that would make.  Think of the angles.
I thought we had a no alcohol policy. Are you saying there are some who violate it?  And they would willingly check their guns?
Guns should be checked at home. This is a stupid, stupid bill, but can anyone think of anything that passed this session so far that isn't?
SueH

-----Original Message-----
From: lfalen
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 7:27 AM
To: Tom Hansen ; Moscow Vision 2020
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Firearms Bill Worries Campus

There is a lot of booze at athletic events. Guns should be checked at the door.
Roger
-----Original message-----
From: "Tom Hansen" thansen at moscow.com
Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 08:31:04 -0700
To: "Moscow Vision 2020" vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: [Vision2020] Firearms Bill Worries Campus

> "If it becomes law, . . . Guns would be allowed at athletic events."
>
> Kinda adds a whole new dimension to college "rivalry", huh?
>
> Idea for t-shirt text:  Nasty, Inebriated, and Armed
>
> Courtesy of today's (March 20, 2011) Spokesman-Review.
>
> -------------------------------------------------------
>
> Firearms bill worries campus
> Boise State says events would be jeopardized
>
> BOISE – Boise State University could lose hundreds of thousands of 
> dollars in revenue from lost sporting and entertainment events if 
> Idaho lawmakers approve a bill to allow guns on college campuses, a school official says.
>
> Bruce Newcomb, the university’s director of government affairs and a 
> former speaker of the Idaho House, said such a law could jeopardize 
> hosting events such as the NCAA men’s basketball tournament and the 
> scheduled 2012 NCAA Division I men’s and women’s indoor track and 
> field championships.
>
> “We’re convinced this is going to interfere with those endeavors,” 
> Newcomb told the Idaho Statesman.
>
> The Idaho House on Wednesday approved a bill that would allow firearms 
> on public university and college campuses. It now goes to the Senate.
>
> If it becomes law, it would prohibit schools from banning firearms, 
> either carried openly or by people with concealed weapons permits, 
> anywhere on campus except in undergraduate residence halls. Guns would 
> be allowed at athletic events.
>
> Idaho law now gives university and college presidents authority to 
> prohibit firearms on campus. Boise State University, Idaho State 
> University, the University of Idaho, Lewis-Clark State College and 
> several community colleges throughout the state have adopted their own 
> regulations to prohibit guns on campus.
>
> Rep. Marv Hagedorn, R-Meridian, co-sponsored the current legislation 
> and disagrees that schools would experience any negative 
> ramifications. He also wondered how the school knows guns aren’t being 
> taken on campus already, especially because he said he’s often carried 
> guns to Boise State venues.
>
> “My question would be to Boise State: How do they know people aren’t 
> carrying guns there now? None of those venues have metal detectors. 
> They don’t say to the visitors or the ticket-holders, ‘Don’t bring 
> your guns because this is a gun-free zone,’ ” Hagedorn said. “I 
> have never seen anything. I have carried to a lot of those venues, and 
> I did not know the policy, nor did I see any signs.”
>
> Boise State spokesman Frank Zang said the campus has more than 1 
> million visits annually by people attending hundreds of sports, 
> cultural and entertainment events.
>
> “We are concerned that allowing guns on campus would have an adverse 
> effect on attracting these events to Boise,” he said. “The industry 
> standard does not allow weapons in the facilities.”
>
> Creston Thornton, a concert promoter with CT Touring, said weapons are 
> not allowed at concerts either. Taco Bell Arena, on the Boise State 
> campus, has hosted concerts by the Dave Matthews Band, Toby Keith, 
> Metallica and Journey.
>
> “We don’t even allow glass bottles because they can be used as weapons.
> It’s just assumed there’s a no-weapons policy,” said Thornton.
>
> Rep. Erik Simpson, R-Idaho Falls, said passing a law allowing guns on 
> campus would not stop the NCAA men’s basketball tournament from coming 
> to Boise State, where early-round games have been held eight times 
> since 1983, most recently in 2009.
>
> But the NCAA in its 2009 operating manual for the tournament states 
> that “firearms and explosives of any kind are not permitted.”
>
> The University of Utah, however, held part of the NCAA women’s 
> gymnastics championship. Utah does not allow firearms bans on college campuses.
>
> “It’s a red herring,” said Simpson. “There is no truth to it. It is 
> not a condition of them appearing on a campus. It’s a guideline. It’s a policy.
> I don’t think policy is going to trump state law.”
>
> -------------------------------------------------------
>
> Seeya round town, Moscow.
>
> Tom Hansen
> Moscow, Idaho
>
> "The Pessimist complains about the wind, the Optimist expects it to 
> change and the Realist adjusts his sails."
>
> - Unknown
>
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