[Vision2020] Note to Bob Kustra

[Dan Carscallen]

Joe, 

I believe what Carl was paraphrasing referred to the blorange-clad folks of donkey state

DC

On Mar 2, 2011, at 16:57, Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com> wrote:

> I can't think of any more false claim about the UI students than "With success comes arrogance, and with arrogance comes some rudeness. That is exactly what has happened here in this little school in the middle of the Idaho potato fields." That has not happened at UI!
> 
> I teach at WSU but we have joint grad program with UI and I get some students from Idaho who come to WSU to take classes (about 2 per semester). Plus, I teach an occasional class at UI, filling in for a friend, and I've given lectures in Moscow. 
> 
> I would say that UI students are less arrogant than WSU students by a long shot. I love my WSU students, and many of them are exceptional. Nonetheless, arguably most people in Pullman would rather be in Seattle (over 2/3 of the students are from the west side, I think) but no one in Moscow would rather be in Boise. In any event, the UI students are well-mannered, IMO.
> 
> I taught at BSU for 2 years, and I would say that my Idaho students were much less arrogant and much better in in terms of their manners than any other students that I've ever had -- which includes students from Washington, Ohio, and Arizona. 
> 
> In general, "manners" are not important to the American youth but in Idaho, they are more important than they are elsewhere. Go, Idaho!
> 
> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 12:28 PM, Carl Westberg <idahovandal1 at live.com> wrote:
> According to a Sports Illustrated poll, Boise State ranked first in the WAC and 17th in the country in the "Which school has the rudest fans" poll.
> "With success comes arrogance, and with arrogance comes some rudeness. That is exactly what has happened here in this little school in the middle of the Idaho potato fields.
> Even with a head football coach that is one of the most classiest guys in the game today, the fans of Boise State have made great strides in the race to become college football's most arrogant and cocky."       Oh, and by the way, Mr. Kustra, from the Boise State, er, Idaho Statesman.......
> By Brian Murphy
> bmurphy at idahostatesman.com
> A comprehensive Sports Illustrated/CBS News special investigation found that 16 Boise State players had criminal charges, ranking the Broncos tied for No. 4 among teams in Sports Illustrated's 2010 preseason Top 25.
> The six-month investigation into 2,837 players found that 7 percent had criminal records and 8.1 percent of scholarship players had been in trouble. Only two of the Top 25 schools did background checks and none checked juvenile records.
> The investigation looked into players' complete criminal records, not just charges while in college.
> Pittsburgh (22 players charged) ranked No. 1 with Iowa and Arkansas (18 players charged each) tying for No. 2. Boise State was tied with Penn State. Virginia Tech (13) was No. 6, the only other school with more than 10 players charged.
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