[Vision2020] Say What?
Tom Hansen
thansen at moscow.com
Sun Jul 10 10:39:03 PDT 2011
Perhaps what you need, Saundra, is the vaccination so thoughtfully
suggested in this video, a vaccination against . . .
"Cooties"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6ylxWcwkUM
Circle . . . Circle . . . Dot . . . Dot . . . Now you've had the cooties
shot.
Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho
On Sun, July 10, 2011 10:32 am, Saundra Lund wrote:
> Goodness, Tom . . . no apologies necessary! I completely agree with your
> question to âBlake Lawâ in your original post! The quote from
> âBlake Lawâ from Wilsonâs blog had plenty to cause offense even
> though Paul chooses not to see it.
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> Canât you just see all those âGodlyâ types chuckling about the joke
> that pokes at both women and gays in the military? Thank God Iâve got a
> strong stomach or Iâd be puking from the hatred.
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> Pardon me while I try to shower the disgust off my body . . . I made the
> mistake of clicking on the link in your first post for context. Itâs a
> natural reaction of mine to shower filth off whenever I come into contact
> with it, which is always the case when I visit Wilsonâs blog. <shiver>
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> Saundra
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> From: Tom Hansen [mailto:thansen at moscow.com]
> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 10:11 AM
> To: Saundra Lund
> Cc: Paul Rumelhart; Moscow Vision 2020
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Say What?
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> My apologies, Saundra.
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> I overlooked the obvious. My initial attention was drawn to the undue
> criticism of homosexual soldiers. Mr. Law's closing words reflect heavily
> on his sexist attitude as well as the "church" that share that attitude.
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> In the words of Pricilla Mondt . . .
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> "When we begin to fulfill our responsibility in the church, displaying
> interest in the life of the organization, clergywomen will be entrusted
> with more responsibility and more visible leadership roles. As God leads
> women in the Assemblies of God into higher leadership positions, a road
> will be paved for others to follow."
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> - Priscilla A. Mondt is an Assemblies of God minister and chaplain in the
> U.S. Army.
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> http://womeninministry.ag.org/resources/articles/ministry/min0306_pavingroad.cfm
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> Seeya round town, Moscow.
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> Tom Hansen
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> Moscow, Idaho
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> "The Pessimist complains about the wind, the Optimist expects it to change
> and the Realist adjusts his sails."
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> - Unknown
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> On Jul 10, 2011, at 9:50, "Saundra Lund" <v2020 at ssl1.fastmail.fm> wrote:
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> Actually, Paul, you completely missed the point, which was the
> ***female***
> Army chaplain, not "sinners."
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> Those in that subset don't think that women should be chaplains, pastors .
> .
> . or sit on school boards.
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> The point you miss that Blake Law was making is that *neither* belong in
> the
> military according to those in Wilson's World or that "subset of
> Christians."
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> Easy to miss the point when one works oh, so hard to make excuses for the
> inexcusable rather than taking people at their word.
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> <shaking my head>
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> Saundra Lund
> Moscow, ID
>
> The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do
> nothing.
> ~ Edmund Burke
>
> ***** Original material contained herein is Copyright 2011 through life
> plus
> 70 years, Saundra Lund. Do not copy, forward, excerpt, or reproduce
> outside
> the Vision 2020 forum without the express written permission of the
> author.*****
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
> On Behalf Of Paul Rumelhart
> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 9:13 AM
> To: Tom Hansen
> Cc: Moscow Vision 2020
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Say What?
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> I'm not a theologian by any means, but if this chaplain is of a subset of
> the Christian religion then they believe that *everyone* is a sinner.
> It's
> human nature, it's why Jesus was required to come down to Earth, etc. So
> this chaplain was not saying (as her quote could sound) that she would
> treat
> a homosexual as one of those other sinners, like rapists, murderers, or
> whatever. She's saying that she would treat them like anyone else,
> basically.
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> People more versed in Christian theology, feel free to show me to be wrong
> on this.
>
> Paul
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> On 07/10/2011 05:26 AM, Tom Hansen wrote:
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> "I recently heard someone breathlessly telling me about an Army
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> chaplain and his response to the repeal of DADT: 'I will treat a
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> homosexual soldier who comes into my office the same as any other
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> sinner.' You know who it was? A female Army chaplain."
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> - Blake Law
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> http://www.dougwils.com/index.php?option=com_content
> <http://www.dougwils.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=8>
> &view=article&id=8
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> 768:slopehead-country&catid=87:politics#JOSC_TOP
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> Question, Mr. Law: How many "sinners" do you figure are buried at
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> Arlington? Or listed on the Vietnam Memorial Wall?
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> Seeya round town, Moscow.
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> Tom Hansen
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> Moscow, Idaho
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> "The Pessimist complains about the wind, the Optimist expects it to
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> change and the Realist adjusts his sails."
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> - Author Unknown
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