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Paul Rumelhart
godshatter at yahoo.com
Tue Jan 18 10:52:44 PST 2011
Like, who would agree with that Rumelhart guy, anyway?
Paul
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From: Art Deco <deco at moscow.com>
To: Vision 2020 <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Tue, January 18, 2011 10:40:49 AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] (no subject)
Further evidence.
----- Original Message -----
>From: lfalen
>To: Art Deco ; Vision 2020
>Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 10:00 AM
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] (no subject)
>
>No, I do not get your drift.
>Roger
>-----Original message-----
>From: "Art Deco" deco at moscow.com
>Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 13:37:30 -0800
>To: "Vision 2020" vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] (no subject)
>
>> Roger's post below is not a kudos of Rumelhart's posts; rather a
>>condemnation (if you get the drift).
>>
>> w.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: lfalen
>> To: Paul Rumelhart ; Andreas Schou
>> Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
>> Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 12:11 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] (no subject)
>>
>>
>> I think that you are one of the most reasonable people who post here and I
>>agree with about 90% of your posts.
>> Roger
>> -----Original message-----
>> From: Paul Rumelhart godshatter at yahoo.com
>> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 21:50:07 -0800
>> To: Andreas Schou ophite at gmail.com
>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] (no subject)
>>
>> >
>> > I tend to annoy everybody, I think. It's a special trait of mine.
>> >
>> > I haven't met very many people on the list in real life. I know Sue
>> > Hovey, I've met Nick Gier, and I've talked to Keely on the phone.
>> >
>> > I miss some of the old-timers that haven't been around in a while. Is
>> > Chasuk still around somewhere? There have been periods of time where I
>
>> > haven't followed the list as much as I'd like, so maybe I just haven't
>> > seen his posts.
>> >
>> > Although Ted and I are constantly beating our heads against each other,
>
>> > I respect his character and can confidently say that he's a principled
>> > person who cares deeply about the environment. Nothing wrong with
>> > that. As I tend to get a bit snarky in my responses far too regularly,
>
>> > I apologize to him now for the many sarcastic and unfriendly remarks
>> > I've made over the years.
>> >
>> > I've talked with Gary both on and off the list (a few times, anyway) and
>>
>> > find him to be a good guy. He calls them like he sees them, and I
>> > respect that. My path over the last few years is one of realizing that
>
>> > even people you differ with have important things to say and that
>> > everything is not so black and white as people try to make it appear.
>> > My opinion of Gary has changed for the better since I've interacted with
>>
>> > him, and that can only be a good sign.
>> >
>> > Apart from the last few weeks, I haven't interacted with Joe that much,
>
>> > but I appreciate the civil discourse we've had, even though we both
>> > probably shriek at the walls various unflattering remarks about each
>> > other after a long back-and-forth. He's an intelligent guy, and he also
>>
>> > calls 'em like he sees 'em, too. That's a good thing.
>> >
>> > I've had some good conversations with Donovan, and find him to be a nice
>>
>> > guy.
>> >
>> > Andreas is one of the more reasonable posters on the list, I enjoy his
>> > posts when I see them. He seems level-headed and intelligent and wise,
>
>> > really.
>> >
>> > I enjoy Tom's humorous posts, and appreciate the work he does for the
>> > community. I'm not as big a fan of cats as he is, though. Don't hate
>> > them, mind you, but I'm not as enamored of them.
>> >
>> > I enjoy Keely's posts, even though we often disagree about some things.
>>
>> > I also enjoy Nicks posts, they are very thought-provoking. There are
>> > lots of others I'm missing, I'm sure. Reggie, Roger, Wayne, Jeff, Dan,
>
>> > Dave, Deb, and others. All of them nice people who think I'm a
>>fruitcake ;)
>> >
>> > It certainly doesn't hurt to take a break from the mud-slinging and to
>> > realize that real people actually exist behind their on-line personas.
>
>> > This list is an enigma. It's full of generally nice people who like to
>
>> > yell at each other all the time. It must be the dehumanizing properties
>>
>> > of the email medium, I guess.
>> >
>> > Ah well, back to the mudslinging, I say!
>> >
>> > Paul
>> >
>> > Andreas Schou wrote:
>> > > Gary's one of a very small number of conservative commentators that
>> > > I've managed to read consistently since I first became politically
>> > > aware. In part, this may be due to the fact that he is one of a
>>very
>> > > small number of conservative commentators whom I may annoy precisely
>> > > as much as he annoys me. But, even where I think he's wrong, he's at
>> > > least responsive.
>> > >
>> > > He's also a damn good locksmith and, as far as I've heard and
>> > > experienced, a decent human. I only disagree with him about matters
>of
>> > > life, death, and whether and how the government should acquire and
>> > > spend trillions of dollars. Other than that, we're cool. And he's
>>not
>> > > the only conservative here that's made a positive contribution to
the
>> > > community.
>> > >
>> > > Many of you know my wife had a brain tumor a couple of years ago
>>and
>> > > nearly died. I was in Seattle for most of the relevant period, but I
>> > > received an unsolicited offer from Doug Farris to bring over
>> > > casseroles and whatnot. I couldn't take him up on it (because I
>> > > suspect his offer didn't extend to driving the casseroles to
>Seattle),
>> > > but I appreciated it more than he knows. And I was genuinely sorry
to
>> > > hear that Pat Kraut died; in all of my professional dealings with
>>her,
>> > > through the Nazarene church, she genuinely enacted the charitable
>> > > values we so vehemently disagreed about the government enacting.
>> > >
>> > > I don't know the rest of the conservatives here as well. Glenn isn't
>a
>> > > real person (though I once had a perfectly civil lunch with the
>person
>> > > I believe he is). Donovan Arnold probably wouldn't kick a puppy
>>unless
>> > > the puppy really had it coming. Jeff Harkins is sometimes genuinely
>> > > helpful, and bright and dedicated, if sometimes glib.
>> > >
>> > > I realize that it'll soon be time to get back to shouting at each
>> > > other. As we should. Isn't that why we're all here? (Maybe not Paul.
>> > > He doesn't seem like a crank. I mean that as a compliment.) But in
>>the
>> > > spirit Dear Leader proposes, I think taking a moment to appreciate
>the
>> > > people we will soon be throwing rotten fruit at seems appropriate.
>> > >
>> > > -- ACS
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