<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:12pt"><div>Like, who would agree with that Rumelhart guy, anyway?<br><br>Paul<br></div><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Art Deco <deco@moscow.com><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Vision 2020 <vision2020@moscow.com><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tue, January 18, 2011 10:40:49 AM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Vision2020] (no subject)<br></font><br>
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<div><font face="Verdana" size="2">Further evidence.</font></div>
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<div style="font: 10pt arial;"><b>To:</b> <a rel="nofollow" title="deco@moscow.com" ymailto="mailto:deco@moscow.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:deco@moscow.com">Art Deco</a> ; <a rel="nofollow" title="vision2020@moscow.com" ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">Vision 2020</a> </div>
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<div><br></div>No, I do not get your drift.<br>Roger<br>-----Original
message-----<br>From: "Art Deco" <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:deco@moscow.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:deco@moscow.com">deco@moscow.com</a><br>Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011
13:37:30 -0800<br>To: "Vision 2020" <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>Subject: Re:
[Vision2020] (no subject)<br><br>> Roger's post below is not a kudos of
Rumelhart's posts; rather a condemnation (if you get the drift).<br>>
<br>> w.<br>> ----- Original Message -----
<br>> From: lfalen <br>> To: Paul Rumelhart ;
Andreas Schou <br>> Cc: <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a>
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PM<br>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] (no subject)<br>> <br>>
<br>> I think that you are one of the most reasonable people
who post here and I agree with about 90% of your posts.<br>>
Roger<br>> -----Original message-----<br>> From:
Paul Rumelhart <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</a><br>>
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 21:50:07 -0800<br>> To: Andreas Schou <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:ophite@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:ophite@gmail.com">ophite@gmail.com</a><br>>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] (no subject)<br>> <br>> >
<br>> > I tend to annoy everybody, I think. It's a
special trait of mine.<br>> > <br>> > I
haven't met very many people on the list in real life. I know Sue
<br>> > Hovey, I've met Nick Gier, and I've talked to Keely
on the phone.<br>> > <br>> > I miss some
of the old-timers that haven't been around in a while. Is
<br>> > Chasuk still around somewhere? There have been
periods of time where I <br>> > haven't followed the list as
much as I'd like, so maybe I just haven't <br>> > seen his
posts.<br>> > <br>> > Although Ted and I
are constantly beating our heads against each other, <br>> >
I respect his character and can confidently say that he's a principled
<br>> > person who cares deeply about the environment.
Nothing wrong with <br>> > that. As I tend to get a
bit snarky in my responses far too regularly, <br>> > I
apologize to him now for the many sarcastic and unfriendly remarks
<br>> > I've made over the years.<br>> >
<br>> > I've talked with Gary both on and off the list (a
few times, anyway) and <br>> > find him to be a good
guy. He calls them like he sees them, and I <br>> >
respect that. My path over the last few years is one of realizing that
<br>> > even people you differ with have important things to
say and that <br>> > everything is not so black and white as
people try to make it appear. <br>> > My opinion of
Gary has changed for the better since I've interacted with
<br>> > him, and that can only be a good
sign.<br>> > <br>> > Apart from the last
few weeks, I haven't interacted with Joe that much, <br>> >
but I appreciate the civil discourse we've had, even though we both
<br>> > probably shriek at the walls various unflattering
remarks about each <br>> > other after a long
back-and-forth. He's an intelligent guy, and he also
<br>> > calls 'em like he sees 'em, too. That's a good
thing.<br>> > <br>> > I've had some good
conversations with Donovan, and find him to be a nice <br>>
> guy.<br>> > <br>> > Andreas is one of
the more reasonable posters on the list, I enjoy his <br>> >
posts when I see them. He seems level-headed and intelligent and wise,
<br>> > really.<br>> >
<br>> > I enjoy Tom's humorous posts, and appreciate the
work he does for the <br>> > community. I'm not as big
a fan of cats as he is, though. Don't hate <br>> >
them, mind you, but I'm not as enamored of them.<br>> >
<br>> > I enjoy Keely's posts, even though we often disagree
about some things. <br>> > I also enjoy Nicks posts,
they are very thought-provoking. There are <br>> >
lots of others I'm missing, I'm sure. Reggie, Roger, Wayne, Jeff, Dan,
<br>> > Dave, Deb, and others. All of them nice people
who think I'm a fruitcake ;)<br>> > <br>>
> It certainly doesn't hurt to take a break from the mud-slinging and to
<br>> > realize that real people actually exist behind their
on-line personas. <br>> > This list is an
enigma. It's full of generally nice people who like to
<br>> > yell at each other all the time. It must be
the dehumanizing properties <br>> > of the email medium, I
guess.<br>> > <br>> > Ah well, back to the
mudslinging, I say!<br>> > <br>> >
Paul<br>> > <br>> > Andreas Schou
wrote:<br>> > > Gary's one of a very small number of
conservative commentators that<br>> > > I've managed to
read consistently since I first became politically<br>> >
> aware. In part, this may be due to the fact that he is one of a
very<br>> > > small number of conservative commentators
whom I may annoy precisely<br>> > > as much as he annoys
me. But, even where I think he's wrong, he's at<br>> > >
least responsive.<br>> > ><br>> > >
He's also a damn good locksmith and, as far as I've heard
and<br>> > > experienced, a decent human. I only disagree
with him about matters of<br>> > > life, death, and
whether and how the government should acquire and<br>> >
> spend trillions of dollars. Other than that, we're cool. And he's
not<br>> > > the only conservative here that's made a
positive contribution to the<br>> > >
community.<br>> > ><br>> > > Many of
you know my wife had a brain tumor a couple of years ago
and<br>> > > nearly died. I was in Seattle for most of
the relevant period, but I<br>> > > received an
unsolicited offer from Doug Farris to bring over<br>> > >
casseroles and whatnot. I couldn't take him up on it (because
I<br>> > > suspect his offer didn't extend to driving the
casseroles to Seattle),<br>> > > but I appreciated it
more than he knows. And I was genuinely sorry to<br>> > >
hear that Pat Kraut died; in all of my professional dealings with
her,<br>> > > through the Nazarene church, she genuinely
enacted the charitable<br>> > > values we so vehemently
disagreed about the government enacting.<br>> >
><br>> > > I don't know the rest of the conservatives
here as well. Glenn isn't a<br>> > > real person (though
I once had a perfectly civil lunch with the person<br>> >
> I believe he is). Donovan Arnold probably wouldn't kick a puppy
unless<br>> > > the puppy really had it coming. Jeff
Harkins is sometimes genuinely<br>> > > helpful, and
bright and dedicated, if sometimes glib.<br>> >
><br>> > > I realize that it'll soon be time to get
back to shouting at each<br>> > > other. As we should.
Isn't that why we're all here? (Maybe not Paul.<br>> > >
He doesn't seem like a crank. I mean that as a compliment.) But in
the<br>> > > spirit Dear Leader proposes, I think taking
a moment to appreciate the<br>> > > people we will soon
be throwing rotten fruit at seems appropriate.<br>> >
><br>> > > -- ACS<br>> >
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