[Vision2020] News From the Left

Fri Feb 11 07:24:42 PST 2011

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Sunil

From: lockshop at pull.twcbc.com
To: v2020 at ssl1.fastmail.fm; vision2020 at moscow.com
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 07:18:28 -0800
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] News From the Left

An anonymous double secret source quoted by Media 
Matters, a group that exists solely to promote liberal viewpoints and trash FOX 
news at every opportunity. How could objective observers take that as anything other then unvarnished 
truth?

g

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: 
  Saundra 
  Lund 
  To: 'Moscow Vision 2020' 
  Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 9:39 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [Vision2020] News >From the 
  Left

  In part, Gary 
  Crabtree wrote:
  “As 
  for me, I accept the media for what it is and by that I mean by and 
  large liberal. My only complaint, if I had any, would be when folks try to 
  make out as though FOX were a direct extension of the Republican party and all 
  the other news organizations were the embodiment of even handed, 
  unbiased reportage.”

  Even though Gary 
  Crabtree obviously doesn’t like to be confused with facts, other Visionaries 
  might find the following interesting:
  http://mediamatters.org/blog/201102100007
  Asked 
  what most viewers and observers of Fox News would be surprised to learn about 
  the controversial cable channel, a former insider from the world of Rupert 
  Murdoch was quick with a response: “I don’t think people would believe it’s as 
  concocted as it is; that stuff is just made up.”
  Indeed, 
  a former Fox News employee who recently agreed to talk with Media 
  Matters confirmed what critics have been saying for years about Murdoch’s 
  cable channel. Namely, that Fox News is run as a purely partisan 
  operation, virtually every news story is actively spun by the 
  staff, its primary goal is to prop up Republicans and knock down Democrats, 
  and that staffers at Fox News routinely operate 
  without the slightest regard 
  for fairness or fact checking. 

  “It 
  is their M.O. to undermine the administration and to undermine Democrats,” 
  says the source. “They’re a propaganda outfit but they call themselves 
  news.”
  And 
  that’s the word from inside Fox News.
  Note 
  the story here isn’t that Fox News leans right. Everyone knows the channel 
  pushes a conservative-friendly version of the news. Everyone who’s been paying 
  attention has known that since the channel’s inception more than a decade ago. 
  The real story, and the real danger posed by the cable outlet, is that over 
  time Fox News stopped simply leaning to the right and instead became an open and 
  active political player, 
  sort of one-part character assassin and one-part propagandist, 
  depending on which party was in power. And that the operation thrives on 
  fabrications and falsehoods. <snip>

  (That’s only part 
  of the article – I highly recommend reading the entire 
  thing.)

  Of course, that’s 
  nothing surprising to objective observers, is it?

  Saundra 
  Lund
  Moscow, 
  ID

  The 
  only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do 
  nothing.
  ~ 
  Edmund Burke

  ***** 
  Original material contained herein is Copyright 2010 through life plus 70 
  years, Saundra Lund.  Do not copy, forward, excerpt, or reproduce outside 
  the Vision 2020 forum without the express written permission of the 
  author.*****

  From: 
  vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] On 
  Behalf Of Gary Crabtree
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 6:02 
  PM
To: Reggie Holmquist; the lockshop
Cc: Moscow Vision 
  2020
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] News From the 
  Left

  You 
  should be asking Ms. Lund. She suggested that Current was a solution to some 
  complaint heard only in the cob web wrapped confines of her 
  imagination.

  As 
  for me, I accept the media for what it is and by that I mean by and 
  large liberal. My only complaint, if I had any, would be when folks try to 
  make out as though FOX were a direct extension of the Republican party and all 
  the other news organizations were the embodiment of even handed, 
  unbiased reportage. 

  As 
  far as a solution for MSNBC and Mr. Olbermann is concerned, it has been found 
  and implemented to my immense satisfaction with no involvement or input on my 
  part required.

  g

  From: Reggie Holmquist 

  Sent: Thursday, 
  February 10, 2011 2:17 PM

  To: the 
  lockshop 

  Cc: Moscow Vision 2020 

  Subject: Re: [Vision2020] 
  News From the Left

  What do you mean by "the solution to a 'lame stream' media 
  that has a decided leftward bias"?

What do you mean by 
  "solution"?  I'm seriously confused.  Is everything but Fox News 
  left-wing and we need some sort of "solution" for that?  Or are you just 
  saying that we need some sort of "solution" for MSNBC and/or Keith 
  Olbermann?  Please elaborate 
  clearly.

-Reggie

  On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 2:12 PM, the lockshop <lockshop at pull.twcbc.com> 
  wrote:
  The "irony" is that you imagine that the solution to a 
  "lame stream" media
that has a decided leftward bias is yet another media 
  outlet with a lefty
slant. Providing a refuge for Olbermann as the 
  company's chief news officer
is not too likely to make Current into 
  anything other than an updated
version of MSNBC/CNN with even less 
  journalistic objectivity or integrity.

That said, as long as the 
  enterprise is privately funded they are fine by me
and I am fairly sure 
  that you would have a remarkably difficult time
pointing to anything I 
  might have said in the previous postings that would
indicate anything other 
  than the plain and simple fact that their viewership
numbers are 
  low.

When it comes to minds both narrow and simple, I would have to 
  think that
they would best be typified by those who work themselves into a 
  frenzied
snit over things they only imagine having been 
  said.

g

----- Original Message -----
From: "Saundra 
  Lund" <v2020 at ssl1.fastmail.fm>

  To: "'Moscow Vision 2020'" 
  <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: 
  Thursday, February 10, 2011 11:35 AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] News From 
  the Left

> Just as I thought -- both again posted their verbal 
  vomit without even
> making an attempt to educate themselves.  All 
  they had to see was
> Olbermann & Gore, and their simple-minded 
  narrow-mindedness again
> triumphed.
>
> The irony, of 
  course, is that both should be supporting networks like
> Current TV 
  since both love to trash "lamestream" media.  Smaller networks
> 
  & community stations are a solution to their complaints, yet they 
  still
> can't do anything more than trash talk.  What a 
  shock!
>
> Not  :-)
>
>
>
> 
  -----Original Message-----
> From: lfalen [mailto:lfalen at turbonet.com]
> Sent: 
  Thursday, February 10, 2011 10:53 AM
> To: Saundra Lund; 'Moscow Vision 
  2020'
> Subject: RE: [Vision2020] News From the Left
>
> I 
  do not know anything about Current TV as I do not watch TV and have no
> 
  opinion on theit  content. My comment was in regard to what I have 
  heard
> is their low viewing audience.
> Roger
> 
  -----Original message-----
> From: "Saundra Lund" v2020 at ssl1.fastmail.fm
> Date: 
  Wed, 09 Feb 2011 13:00:42 -0800
> To: "'lfalen'" lfalen at turbonet.com, "'Moscow Vision 
  2020'"
> vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: 
  RE: [Vision2020] News From the Left
>
>> Thanks for once again 
  reminding us, Gary & Roger, of your
>> narrow-mindedness. 
   Not much chance any of us would forget it, but it's
>> nice 
  that you both take every opportunity to make *sure* we don’t 
  forget
>> it while also never missing an opportunity to unceasingly 
  whine when you
>> think the Unthinking Right is getting picked 
  upon.
>>
>> I'm also grateful that you two continue to show 
  your ignorance.  Current
>> TV actually has some great 
  programming enjoyed by many Americans, but you
>> two ideologues are 
  too ignorant to even attempt to educate yourselves
>> before spouting 
  off your ugliness.  Good job -- I'm sure your families
>> are SO 
  PROUD of you!!!
>>
>> Roger & Gary, why don't you both 
  tell us what you find wrong with Current
>> TV?  Do it quickly, 
  though, or it will be obvious that you both ran off
>> at the mouth 
  -- again -- without having the slightest idea of what you
>> were 
  attempting to talk about.
>>
>>
>>
>> 
  Saundra Lund
>> Moscow, ID
>>
>> The only thing 
  necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do
>> 
  nothing.
>> ~ Edmund Burke
>>
>> ***** Original 
  material contained herein is Copyright 2010 through life
>> plus 70 
  years, Saundra Lund.  Do not copy, forward, excerpt, or 
  reproduce
>> outside the Vision 2020 forum without the express 
  written permission of
>> the 
  author.*****
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original 
  Message-----
>> From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com
>> 
  [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] 
  On Behalf Of lfalen
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 11:25 
  AM
>> To: Tom Hansen; Moscow Vision 2020
>> Subject: Re: 
  [Vision2020] News From the Left
>>
>> Good place for him. He 
  can babble on and few will hear or pay any
>> attention to 
  him.
>> Roger
>>
>>
>
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