[Vision2020] Fw: On Ron Paul and Racism

[Tom Hansen]

Paul Rumelhart suggests:

"And once again, this is only out there in order to distract us.  These people could care less if it's even true.  It's just convenient."

Ya mean like the Republican/Tea Party's response to a statement made by Obama's pastor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, right?

Seeya later, Moscow.

Tom Hansen
Spokane, Washington

"If not us, who?
If not now, when?"

- Unknown

On Dec 31, 2011, at 3:52 PM, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com> wrote:

> 
> Does it matter whether or not the allegations are true?  Or do we just call them out anyway?
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> Here is an article from CBS News about the newsletters: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57345702-503544/ron-paul-disavows-racist-newsletters-under-his-name/
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> The article contains a quote by Ron Paul on the issue:  
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> "When I was out of Congress and practicing medicine full-time, a newsletter was published under my name that I did not edit. Several writers contributed to the product," he said. "For over a decade, I have publicly taken moral responsibility for not paying closer attention to what went out under my name."
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> I'd hate to see the man dragged over the coals for something he might not have deserved solely because (for example) Jon Huntsman is losing to Ron Paul in New Hampshire and has staked his campaign on a strong showing there.
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> I got that last bit from this article: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57349712-503544/huntsman-calls-ron-paul-unelectable-because-of-racist-newsletters/
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> And once again, this is only out there in order to distract us.  These people could care less if it's even true.  It's just convenient.
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> Paul
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> On 12/31/2011 02:44 PM, keely emerinemix wrote:
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>> I don't think you're defending racism, racist behavior, or even the wrongness of screaming "He's a racist!" at the slightest apparent provocation.  That said, I think it's imperative that legitimate indications that an individual's views on race/gender/class/civil rights/culture are bigoted be called out, examined, and condemned -- and I believe that the text of Ron Paul's newsletters are an example.  
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>> Keely
>> www.keely-prevailingwinds.com
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>> Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Fw: On Ron Paul and Racism
>> Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 14:41:13 -0800
>> From: jborden at datawedge.com
>> To: kjajmix1 at msn.com; v2020 at ssl1.fastmail.fm; vision2020 at moscow.com
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>> I’m not *defending* racism, I’m commenting on the mere finger-pointing and accusations being so charged that it’s a nuclear weapon in a political arsenal. 
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>> It’s used as a tool for distraction, and hence, theatrics.  (And, unless I missed the mark, perhaps Mr. Rumelhart’s point).
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>> Insert story of “crying wolf”.
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>> Jay
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>> From: keely emerinemix [mailto:kjajmix1 at msn.com] 
>> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 2:27 PM
>> To: Jay Borden; v2020 at ssl1.fastmail.fm; vision2020 at moscow.com
>> Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Fw: On Ron Paul and Racism
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>> Jay, I would rue the day that racist behavior and bigoted views become irrelevant in how we choose our leaders.  There are issues that truly good people can disagree on; racism, however, is never the view of a "truly good person," and in fact ought to, by virtue of popular outcry, immediately make a pariah out of the one who embraces it.
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>> Keely
>> www.keely-prevailingwinds.com
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>> Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 14:17:33 -0800
>> From: jborden at datawedge.com
>> To: v2020 at ssl1.fastmail.fm; vision2020 at moscow.com
>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Fw: On Ron Paul and Racism
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>> I would agree with Paul’s statement… but I would word it a bit differently to deflect some of the immediate hatred I’m sure will be heading my way.
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>> I would say that racism, like abortion and gay marriage are *USED* as theatrical issues. 
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>> It’s interesting as soon as any candidate becomes popular in the polls, some wild-card story gets tossed about dealing with one of these issues.  Then it’s pressed as long as necessary until the candidate just “goes away”.
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>> Rick Perry (again, not a fan) was gaining traction… and then suddenly a story about “Niggerhead” surfaced.  (He has since nearly imploded on his own, but that’s a separate issue).
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