[Vision2020] Fw: Mr. Paul’s Discredited Campaign

Fri Dec 30 09:36:59 PST 2011

Wayne,

He's the only candidate, including Obama, who is against empire.

How much integrity can Obama have when he gives himself the power to assassinate people (including 16 year-old US citizens) around the world, in secret?

Choosing the lesser of two evils only means we're running towards hell instead of galloping there.

Sunil

From: deco at moscow.com
To: Vision2020 at moscow.com
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 09:29:03 -0800
Subject: Re: [Vision2020]	Fw: Mr. Paul’s Discredited Campaign

I agree with Rumelhart to the extent that things in this 
country [and globally] are broken beyond the traditional politicians' ways 
of repairing them.  We need bold, realistic, non-poll-driven leaders 
who can convince us to re-evaluate our situation, offer feasible solutions, and 
to convince us to make the inevitable selfless sacrifices 
necessary.

Though not traditional, I do not think Ron Paul is one 
of those leaders.

His view of the world and his positions are too 
simplistic for the complex, diverse, globally competitive world we 
live in.  The latest revelations have shown that his integrity does 
not rise above the minimum standard.  The simplicity of his views are his 
main attraction to many, but reality is the barricade to his views ever 
producing workable solutions -- they would be even more disastrous than the 
messes we now face.

In addition, some of his views are so abhorrent and/or 
crackpotty that he would not be likely to convince congress to implement them in 
the face of public opinion.

Having said that, I am unable to suggest any leader or 
group of leaders that seem capable of fixing things.  The best I can hope 
for is that we elect the lesser of the evils, at least by a little, to struggle 
on.

I'm glad I'm old and not likely to live too much 
longer.  I don't not want to see the result of where the world is heading 
and the foolishness of those in power resisting what needs to be done to change 
that direction.

w.

From: Sunil Ramalingam 
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 7:54 AM
Cc: vision 2020 
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Fw: Mr. Paul’s Discredited 
Campaign

Why doesn't the NYT address Paul's stances on foreign policy? On 
defense spending?

Sunil

Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 20:38:24 -0800
From: godshatter at yahoo.com
To: deco at moscow.com
CC: Vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: 
[Vision2020] Fw: Mr. Paul’s Discredited Campaign

I'm beginning to believe 
that Ron Paul is our only hope to stop the downslope this country is on.  
For example, the Transportation Security Administration just got an extra $7.85 
billion in funding for 2012, including several hundred million dollars of 
funding for whole body imagers.  This passed both the House and the 
Senate.  Does anyone here actually believe that terrorism is a personally 
actionable danger?  Do you change your behavior at all due to the 
threat?  Do you think all the security theater is worth the 
money?

Ron Paul is about the only guy out there that votes against this 
kind of crap.  Pretty much everybody else, (R) or (D), votes it in.  
All they seem to argue about is who is getting the pork.

As I see it, 
your choices are 1) the same old shit, but next year having slipped even farther 
away from rationality or 2) this one bat-shit crazy dude that might actually try 
to do something about it.

One thing I've noticed this year is that Ron 
Paul is actually getting press.  There was a massive grassroots campaign 
for him the last couple of elections, but nobody in the media would take him 
seriously as an actual candidate.

The fact that they have started the 
smear campaign means that there is actually a chance of getting him in 
office.

My advice?  Don't vote for the person that looks like the 
most responsible Dad, or the guy that looks like he's someone you could have a 
beer with, or the one that looks like a he's a successful lawyer.  All of 
those guys are going to perpetuate the power grab that has been going on for the 
last few decades.

Vote for the dude that puts the fear of God into the 
others.  Vote for the one that will work to decrease their power, not the 
others that only want to increase it for personal gain.

Sure, he's a bag 
of mixed nuts sometimes.  But he's the only one with half a chance to shake 
things up a bit.

This should be a fun election 
year.

Paul

On 12/28/2011 11:35 AM, Art Deco wrote: 

  Reprints 

  December 27, 2011
  Mr. Paul’s Discredited Campaign
  Ron Paul long ago 
  disqualified himself for the presidency by peddling claptrap proposals like 
  abolishing the Federal Reserve, returning to the gold standard, cutting a 
  third of the federal budget and all foreign aid and opposing the Civil Rights 
  Act of 1964. 
Now, making things worse, he 
  has failed to convincingly repudiate racist remarks that were published under 
  his name for years — or the enthusiastic support he is getting from racist 
  groups. 
Mr. Paul, a Republican 
  congressman from Texas who is doing particularly well in Iowa’s precaucus 
  polls, published several newsletters in the ’80s and ’90s with names like the 
  Ron Paul Survival Report and the Ron Paul Political Report. The newsletters 
  interspersed libertarian political and investment commentary with racial 
  bigotry, anti-Semitism and far-right paranoia. 
Among other offensive statements, the newsletters said that 95 percent of Washington’s black males were criminals, and 
  they described the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.’s birthday as “Hate Whitey 
  Day.” One 1993 article appeared under a headline lamenting the 
  country’s “disappearing white majority.” Other articles suggested that the 
  Mossad, the Israeli intelligence service, was responsible for the 1993 World 
  Trade Center bombing, praised the Louisiana racist David Duke and accused some 
  gay men with AIDS of deliberately spreading the disease, “perhaps out of a 
  pathological hatred.” 
A direct-mail ad for the newsletters from around 1993 warned 
  of a “coming race war in our big cities” and said there was a 
  “federal-homosexual cover-up” to suppress the impact of AIDS. 
Mr. Paul, who, beginning in 2008, has disavowed the 
  articles and their ideas, now says that most of them were written by others 
  and that he was unaware of their content. Even if that were the case, it 
  suggests a stupendous level of negligence that should force a reconsideration 
  by anyone considering entrusting him with the White House. 
When the newsletters first became an issue during his 
  Congressional campaigns in the 1990s, however, he did not deny writing some of them or knowing about them. 

Mr. Paul has never given a full and 
  detailed accounting of who wrote the newsletters and what his role was in 
  overseeing their publication. It’s especially important that he do so 
  immediately. Those writings have certainly not been forgotten by white 
  supremacist and militia groups that are promoting his candidacy in Iowa and in 
  New Hampshire. 
The Times reported on Sunday that dozens of members of the white 
  nationalist Web site Stormfront are volunteering for the Paul campaign, along 
  with far-right militias, survivalists and anti-Zionist groups. Don Black, the 
  Stormfront director, said his members were drawn to Mr. Paul by the 
  newsletters and his positions against immigration and the Fed (run by Jews, 
  Mr. Black said), even if Mr. Paul were not himself a white nationalist. 

Mr. Paul, saying he still hopes to 
  “convert” these supporters to his views, has refused to disavow them or to 
  chase them out of his campaign. If he does not do so, he will leave a lasting 
  stain on his candidacy, on the libertarian movement and, very possibly, on the 
  Iowa caucuses. 

  _____________________________________
  Wayne A. Fox
wayne.a.fox at gmail.com

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