[Vision2020] More of the GOP Targeting Our Youth &EconomicallyChallenged Parents

lfalen lfalen at turbonet.com
Mon Apr 4 12:58:01 PDT 2011


I would not argue with you on that. My point is that it is a hardship on a lot of folks to keep raising the price on everything when wages are stagnate or decreasing.
Roger
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From: "Sue Hovey" suehovey at moscow.com
Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2011 12:43:21 -0700
To: "lfalen" lfalen at turbonet.com, "Sunil Ramalingam" sunilramalingam at hotmail.com, v2020 at ssl1.fastmail.fm, "vision 2020" vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] More of the GOP Targeting Our Youth &EconomicallyChallenged Parents

> Then change the law!!!  Now that should be a snap.  Golly.
> 
> Sue H
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: lfalen
> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 9:12 AM
> To: Sunil Ramalingam ; v2020 at ssl1.fastmail.fm ; vision 2020
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] More of the GOP Targeting Our Youth 
> &EconomicallyChallenged Parents
> 
> Then change the law requiring a class per se and go  to a proficiency test 
> and allow kids to be trained by any adult. I won't disagree with your second 
> statement.
> Roger
> -----Original message-----
> From: Sunil Ramalingam sunilramalingam at hotmail.com
> Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2011 08:48:19 -0700
> To: lfalen at turbonet.com,  v2020 at ssl1.fastmail.fm,  vision 
> 2020vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: RE: [Vision2020] More of the GOP Targeting Our Youth & 
> EconomicallyChallenged Parents
> 
> >
> > Roger,
> >
> > Isn't it meaningless for you to say "Train your own kids," when Idaho law 
> > requires a class for drivers under 17?
> >
> > You say "Fees are too high." The Republican party-line vote will make 
> > these classes MORE expensive, and maintains the requirement these drivers 
> > take a class.
> >
> > Sunil
> >
> > > Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 11:29:35 -0700
> > > From: lfalen at turbonet.com
> > > To: v2020 at ssl1.fastmail.fm; vision2020 at moscow.com
> > > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] More of the GOP Targeting Our Youth & 
> > > Economically Challenged Parents
> > >
> > > Genesee charges $165.00, On April 11 there is a public hearing to raise 
> > > it to $225.00 on May 1. Fees are getting too high. Train your own kids.
> > > Roger
> > > -----Original message-----
> > > From: "Saundra Lund" v2020 at ssl1.fastmail.fm
> > > Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 22:20:21 -0700
> > > To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> > > Subject: [Vision2020] More of the GOP Targeting Our Youth & Economically 
> > > Challenged Parents
> > >
> > > > The hits just keep coming, and it's absolutely *disgusting* to me the 
> > > > real
> > > > motive behind so many is to improve the lot of for-profit businesses 
> > > > while
> > > > harming the least among us.
> > > >
> > > > If these GOP legislators had any shame -- which they've proven time & 
> > > > again
> > > > this legislative session that they don't -- they would have, in tandem 
> > > > with
> > > > this hair-brained idea, done away with mandatory driver-training 
> > > > program for
> > > > those under 17.  I know the "quality" of some of these for-profit 
> > > > driving
> > > > schools, and they certainly are no more capable than many parents can 
> > > > do
> > > > without having to shell out $350.  Currently, MHS charges $135, so an
> > > > increase to $350 would be a whopping 40% increase, and increase many
> > > > families could ill-afford  As it is, the rank hypocrisy of the GOP's 
> > > > motive
> > > > is glaringly apparent.
> > > >
> > > > SL
> > > >
> > > > http://www.idahostatesman.com/2011/03/31/1587391/idaho-house-to-debate-cutti
> > > > ng.html
> > > >
> > > > March 31, 2011
> > > > Idaho House to debate cutting driver's ed funding
> > > > By JESSIE L. BONNER - Associated Press
> > > >
> > > > Idaho would no longer help cover the cost of driver's education 
> > > > classes at
> > > > public schools, under a bill before the 2011 Legislature.
> > > >
> > > > Republican lawmakers advanced legislation Thursday to strip state 
> > > > funding
> > > > from driver's ed classes, essentially ending the $125-per student 
> > > > subsidy
> > > > for programs that have been offered through Idaho's public schools 
> > > > since
> > > > 1948. The bulk of the money would be redirected into a public school 
> > > > rainy
> > > > day account.
> > > >
> > > > The changes would leave either students or schools to pick up the 
> > > > slack> > Idaho's wannabe teen drivers already pay $180 to $200 of the 
> > > > total $325 cost
> > > > of driver's ed classes, according to lawmakers behind the measure.
> > > >
> > > > Republican Rep. Steve Thayn of Emmett contends his bill aims to spur 
> > > > debate
> > > > about education spending.
> > > >
> > > > "It's a matter of priorities," he said. "Should we continue to 
> > > > subsidize
> > > > each student that takes driver's training from a public school or 
> > > > reallocate
> > > > those funds back into the classroom?"
> > > >
> > > > Student fees covered roughly half the total $2.3 million cost of 
> > > > public
> > > > driver's education courses in Idaho schools last year. The state 
> > > > reimbursed
> > > > school districts for the remaining $1.3 million, at a rate of $125 per
> > > > student enrolled in the training courses, using money collected from
> > > > driver's license fees.
> > > >
> > > > The Republican-dominated House Education Committee advanced Thyan's 
> > > > bill on
> > > > a party-line vote.
> > > >
> > > > Critics, primarily Democrats, contend the legislation jeopardizes 
> > > > access to
> > > > public driver's training courses and will put the cost out of reach 
> > > > for some
> > > > families.
> > > >
> > > > "Our rural students are driving and they have a lot of 
> > > > responsibilities,
> > > > especially in our farming areas. They need to have the training," said
> > > > Democratic Rep. Donna Pence of Gooding.
> > > >
> > > > State law requires anyone under age 17 applying for a driver's license 
> > > > to
> > > > complete a driver-training program. About 10,000 students took public
> > > > driver's ed courses in Idaho school districts last year, according to 
> > > > the
> > > > state Department of Education.
> > > >
> > > > Supporters of the changes included operators of private driver's ed
> > > > businesses, who contend the subsidies for public driver's ed programs 
> > > > create
> > > > an uneven playing field. Private driver's ed courses cost between $325 
> > > > and
> > > > $350, lawmakers said.
> > > >
> > > > "You're subsidizing a product that's in direct competition to free
> > > > enterprise," said Kim Hatch, whose family operates Hatch's Drivers 
> > > > Training
> > > > in Meridian.
> > > >
> > > > Democratic Rep. Susan Chew of Boise countered that the programs were 
> > > > about
> > > > safety.
> > > >
> > > > "I thought that the reason we were subsidizing it, is so when I get 
> > > > out in
> > > > my car I don't have to run into a crazy kid that hasn't been trained," 
> > > > Chew
> > > > said.
> > > >
> > > >
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