[Vision2020] Joe and Arrogance

[lfalen]

Looks like I really got under your skin. The point is I think that you use the term "idiot" too liberally. I am not a Gingrich fan, but I would wager that his IQ is higher than yours. Who is the idiot? You do not know Gresham. He is not a bigot. He worked closely with Ike Young, a mormon. His pastor, not him made the comments you dislike. When It comes to religion, I do not criticize anyone's belief.  There are dogma in almost all religions  that I would disagree with and some that I support. I look at the individual not their religion. Everyone is entitled to there religious beliefs as long as they do not interfere with the rights of others. A lot of people think Mormons are blasphemous and are not Christians because of there belief (as I understand it) that anyone can become a god. I think that they are Christians because they believe in Jesus and thier church is set up on the basis of Christ's 12 apostles. Most Mormons that I know are great people and I admire their stron!
 g family
values.
I did not call you a communist. You read that into my comments. As to who resorts to name calling, look in the mirror.
Roger
-----Original message-----
From: Joe Campbell philosopher.joe at gmail.com
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 14:54:32 -0700
To: lfalen lfalen at turbonet.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Joe and Arrogance

> Sorry -- last clarification.
> 
> I didn't call ALL Republicans -- whom I disagree with -- "idiots." In fact,
> I explicitly said that I don't think all Republicans are idiots and
> mentioned a few by name that I didn't think were idiots.
> 
> I asked why Republicans VOTE for idiots. The idiots are folks like Bush,
> Palin, and Gingrich. I called Gingrich an "idiot" because of his bigoted
> comments -- comments which you conveniently didn't include in this criticism
> -- not because he was a Republican. I asked a question: Why do so many
> Republicans vote for idiots -- folks who are either dumb as posts or obvious
> and clear bigots?
> 
> I'm asking you, too, Roger. Why did you openly support Gresham Bouma in the
> last election, someone who is openly antagonistic toward Mormons? Why
> support Young, someone who was openly antagonistic toward folks on the left?
> Do you think it is OK to call Mormons "blasphemous"? Do you think that that
> kind of behavior is indicative of what our founding fathers meant by the
> right to the free exercise of religion? Do you think leaders should only
> cater to members of your own political party? That they can ignore the folks
> that they don't vote for them?
> 
> But the fact is that you won't answer these questions. What you'll do is
> call me a "communist" and try to divert attention from the growing racism of
> your political party. And what I'll continue to do is point out the racism,
> even if it means putting up with your mean-spirited name calling.
> 
> On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 11:52 AM, lfalen <lfalen at turbonet.com> wrote:
> 
> > It is amazing to me that some people on the left like joe, call everyone
> > they disagree with idiots. I think it was Stalin that called the American
> > left useful idiots. A friend of my aunt's on finding out I was a friend of
> > Steve Symms said, "He can't be very bright can he". Some on the right think
> > the same way. I do not know why people cannot disagree on the issues with
> > out disparaging one another's intelligence.
> > Roger
> >
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