[Vision2020] Medical marijuana
lfalen
lfalen at turbonet.com
Tue Sep 28 09:26:56 PDT 2010
Thanks Tom
Looking forward to your report when you get back
Roger
-----Original message-----
From: "Tom Hansen" thansen at moscow.com
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 10:12:20 -0700
To: "lfalen" lfalen at turbonet.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Medical marijuana
> I have been a member of the online Pocatello Chapter of NORML (National
> Organization for the Reduction of Marijuana Laws) since its inception.
>
> Tom Trail has been quoted on the site.
>
> http://stash.norml.org/idaho-representative-proposes-medical-marijuana
>
> California (especially from the bay area down to San Luis Obispo) is
> majorly active in marijuana law reduction.
>
> When I get back to Vandalville, remind me to tell you about California's
> Prop 19 (recognizing marijuana as a recreational drug and regulated like
> alcohol) and scan some documents I have obtained.
>
> Later, Moscow,
>
> Tom Hansen
> Monterey, California
>
> On Mon, September 27, 2010 9:52 am, lfalen wrote:
> > Kelly
> > I never said anything about the poor. However I think that calling it a
> > war on the poor is a little strong. That implies intentionally inflicting
> > harm. I do not think that is the case. I agree that the poor are
> > dispositional effected. but it goes well beyond that. It effect both the
> > middle class and the rich. Almost every family has had some member
> > effected. I have two cousins (middle class)that are druggies.Their father
> > was a retired Naval Commander and ran the Naval Museum in San Francisco
> > after he retired from the Navy. People like Falwell and Robertson may be
> > partially responsible but it goes well beyond that and includes the broad
> > center(both left and right). There have always been those on the
> > libertarian right that have been for the legalization of drugs. Buckey,
> > Fredman and Shultz to name a few. Ethan Nadelman of the Drug Policy
> > Alliance has written articles for National Review. I think that we should
> > all work together to end this absurd policy. Join the marijuana!
> > Policy
> > Project and the Drug Policy Alliance, I have been a member of both for
> > years. Every one should write letters, call their congressmen and join
> > the above organizations. If we all get with it, we can get the job done.
> > The pendulum is swinging in that direction. Lets give it a boost.
> > Roger
> > -----Original message-----
> > From: keely emerinemix kjajmix1 at msn.com
> > Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 20:46:40 -0700
> > To: lfalen at turbonet.com, krfp at radiofreemoscow.org, 'Bill
> > London'london at moscow.com
> > Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Medical marijuana
> >
> >>
> >> It's kind of telling that when I say the War on Drugs is an intentional
> >> war on poor people, dark-skinned people, and women involved with bad
> >> men, you think I'm singling out the Right -- instead of failing to claim
> >> as your own the "truly pro-life, pro-justice, pro-family and
> >> pro-Constitutionalists around us" who ought to object to the War on
> >> Drugs. Of course, it's hard not to lay the blame for this failed War at
> >> the feet of the Right wing, given that it wasn't liberals who conflated
> >> marijuana with all manner of societal breakdown. Still, my point was
> >> that a real concern for justice, family, and the Constitution ought to
> >> energize the conservatives who see it's not working.
> >>
> >> Keely
> >> www.keely-prevailingwinds.com
> >>
> >> > Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 16:12:11 -0700
> >> > From: lfalen at turbonet.com
> >> > To: kjajmix1 at msn.com; krfp at radiofreemoscow.org; london at moscow.com
> >> > CC: vision2020 at moscow.com; fotopro63 at hotmail.com
> >> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Medical marijuana
> >> >
> >> > The war on drugs has not worked any better than prohibition of
> >> Alcohol. I would howerer object to singling out those on the right as
> >> the one in support of the war on drugs. There are plenty of those in
> >> the center and on the left ( republican Democrat and Independent) who
> >> supported the war on drugs Lets not cast stone, but pull together to
> >> pass a sane drug policy. We can start by supporting Tom Trail's
> >> Medical marijuana bill and then move on to at least legalizing
> >> Marijuana
> >> > Roger
> >> > -----Original message-----
> >> > From: keely emerinemix kjajmix1 at msn.com
> >> > Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 18:49:21 -0700
> >> > To: krfp at radiofreemoscow.org, "'Bill London'" london at moscow.com
> >> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Medical marijuana
> >> >
> >> > >
> >> > > As another native of Southern Arizona, I agree with Kai -- the "war
> >> on drugs" has been dreadfully ineffective and terribly unjust as a
> >> means of combating this nation's problems with drugs, crime,
> >> addiction, and the general breakdown of healthy society. Which
> >> means, of course, that it's gone just swimmingly as a war on poor
> >> people, dark-skinned people, and women involved with bad guys. I
> >> for one believe that's neither an unintended consequence NOR a messy
> >> display of collateral damage, and the truly pro-life, pro-justice,
> >> pro-family and pro-Constitution'ers around us ought to examine just
> >> where and how we got so desperately off track.
> >> > >
> >> > > Keely
> >> > > www.keely-prevailingwinds.com
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 20:57:42 -0700
> >> > > From: krfp at radiofreemoscow.org
> >> > > To: london at moscow.com
> >> > > CC: vision2020 at moscow.com; fotopro63 at hotmail.com
> >> > > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Medical marijuana
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > I second that!
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Dave
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On 09/20/2010 11:31 AM, Bill London wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Kai-
> >> > > thanks for the view from the front lines....
> >> > > i urge you to consider expanding this to a DN
> >> > > editorial
> >> > > BL
> >> > >
> >> > > -----
> >> > > Original Message -----
> >> > > From:
> >> > > Kai Eiselein
> >> > > To:
> >> > > vision2020 at moscow.com
> >> > > Sent:
> >> > > Sunday, September 19, 2010 8:04 PM
> >> > > Subject:
> >> > > Re: [Vision2020] Medical marijuana
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > I spent several days in July wandering around southern Arizona,
> >> showing
> >> > > my wife where I grew up, visiting old friends and seeing what has
> >> > > changed since my last visit.
> >> > >
> >> > > After being closely watched as we parked in the downtown Nogales
> >> area,
> >> > > just yards from the border to get a closer look at "the wall", being
> >> > > followed as we traveled the back roads near Arivaca and having to
> >> pass
> >> > > through Border Patrol checkpoints despite never having left United
> >> > > States soil, I have come to a conclusion:
> >> > >
> >> > > The U.S. must legalize ALL drugs and tax the hell out of them.
> >> > >
> >> > > This "war on drugs" has destroyed Nogales and the surrounding areas.
> >> A
> >> > > grade school I went to is having a large fence built around it, this
> >> > > after a BP agent went tearing through school grounds in an SUV while
> >> > > chasing someone. My old high school, which is now an alternative
> >> high
> >> > > school, has chain link topped by barbed wire around most of the
> >> campus,
> >> > > giving it the feel of a prison, not a school.
> >> > >
> >> > > The entire city of Nogales has a weird vibe to it, mind you it has
> >> > > always been a tough border town, but this is different. There is an
> >> > > ominus feeling that was never there before, it permeates the city,
> >> one
> >> > > can feel it in stores, on the street and in restaurants. Even my
> >> wife
> >> > > commented on it and asked how we could have lived there for so long.
> >> I
> >> > > told her it wasn't like that when I was younger.
> >> > >
> >> > > The area around Arivaca, a hamlet in the middle of the Sonoran
> >> Desert
> >> > > northeast of Nogales, is also much changed. At one time you'd be
> >> lucky
> >> > > if you passed 3 or 4 cars between Arivaca and Amado a distance of
> >> about
> >> > > 25 miles. We encountered no less than 26 during the trip there and
> >> > > back, not including those at the checkpoint.
> >> > >
> >> > > I stopped a few times to get out take photos and point out things to
> >> my
> >> > > wife along the Arivaca Road and Ruby Road, which leads south to
> >> > > Nogales. On two occasions a BP truck parked where its occupant could
> >> > > observe us, once on the Arivaca Road and the other one Ruby Road
> >> where
> >> > > I got out to look over the property my parents used to own.
> >> > >
> >> > > The solitude of the desert was shattered several times as choppers
> >> flew
> >> > > past, including one Blackhawk.
> >> > >
> >> > > If you want to know what it is like to be in a police state, spend
> >> some
> >> > > time south of Tucson.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > > From: vision2020-request at moscow.com
> >> > >
> >> > > > Subject: Vision2020 Digest, Vol 51, Issue 64
> >> > >
> >> > > > To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> >> > >
> >> > > > Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 12:00:01 -0700
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> >> > > > 1. Re: Idaho medical marijuana law --draft (Tom Hansen)
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> >> > > > Message: 1
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> >> > > > Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 14:35:04 -0700 (PDT)
> >> > >
> >> > > > From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
> >> > >
> >> > > > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Idaho medical marijuana law --draft
> >> > >
> >> > > > To: "Bill London" <london at moscow.com>
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> >> > > > Cc: vision2020 <vision2020 at moscow.com>
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> >> > >
> >> > > > Marijuana Medicine Evaluation Centers of California
> >> > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> > > > (with locations in Sacramento, San Jose, Oakland, Camarillo, City
> >> > > of
> >> > >
> >> > > > Industry, Woodland Hills, Lawndale, Santa Ana, San Diego, Norco)
> >> > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> > > > http://www.mmecdoctors.com/
> >> > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> > > > They advertise in the San Francisco Chronicle.
> >> > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> > > > WAKE UP, Idaho!!!
> >> > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> > > > Tom Hansen
> >> > >
> >> > > > Reno, Nevada
> >> > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> > > > On Sat, September 18, 2010 2:01 pm, Bill London wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > > Fwd: Returned mail: see transcript for detailsTom Trail sent
> >> > > this draft of
> >> > >
> >> > > > > the Idaho Medical Marijuana Act ..(attached)...He is
> >> > > requesting input and
> >> > >
> >> > > > > ideas
> >> > >
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