[Vision2020] Medical marijuana

lfalen lfalen at turbonet.com
Mon Sep 27 09:52:04 PDT 2010


Kelly
I never said anything about the poor. However I think that calling it a war on the poor is a little strong. That implies intentionally inflicting harm. I do not think that is the case. I agree that the poor are dispositional effected.  but  it goes well beyond that. It effect both the middle class and the rich. Almost  every family has had some member effected. I have two cousins (middle class)that are druggies.Their father was a retired Naval Commander and ran the Naval Museum in San Francisco after he retired from the Navy. People like Falwell and Robertson may be partially responsible but it goes well beyond that and includes the broad center(both left and right). There have always been those on the libertarian right that have been for the legalization of drugs. Buckey, Fredman and Shultz to name a few. Ethan Nadelman of the Drug Policy Alliance has written articles for National Review. I think that we should all work together to end this absurd policy. Join the marijuana!
  Policy
Project and the Drug Policy Alliance, I have been a member of both for years. Every one should write  letters, call their congressmen and join the above organizations. If we all get with it, we can get the job done. The pendulum is swinging in that direction. Lets give it a boost.
Roger
-----Original message-----
From: keely emerinemix kjajmix1 at msn.com
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 20:46:40 -0700
To: lfalen at turbonet.com,  krfp at radiofreemoscow.org,  'Bill London'london at moscow.com
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Medical marijuana

> 
> It's kind of telling that when I say the War on Drugs is an intentional war on poor people, dark-skinned people, and women involved with bad men, you think I'm singling out the Right -- instead of failing to claim as your own the "truly pro-life, pro-justice, pro-family and pro-Constitutionalists around us" who ought to object to the War on Drugs.  Of course, it's hard not to lay the blame for this failed War at the feet of the Right wing, given that it wasn't liberals who conflated marijuana with all manner of societal breakdown.  Still, my point was that a real concern for justice, family, and the Constitution ought to energize the conservatives who see it's not working.  
>  
> Keely
> www.keely-prevailingwinds.com
> 
> > Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 16:12:11 -0700
> > From: lfalen at turbonet.com
> > To: kjajmix1 at msn.com; krfp at radiofreemoscow.org; london at moscow.com
> > CC: vision2020 at moscow.com; fotopro63 at hotmail.com
> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Medical marijuana
> > 
> > The war on drugs has not worked any better than prohibition of Alcohol. I would howerer object to singling out those on the right as the one in support of the war on drugs. There are plenty of those in the center and on the left ( republican Democrat and Independent) who supported the war on drugs Lets not cast stone, but pull together to pass a sane drug policy. We can start by supporting Tom Trail's Medical marijuana bill and then move on to at least legalizing Marijuana
> > Roger
> > -----Original message-----
> > From: keely emerinemix kjajmix1 at msn.com
> > Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 18:49:21 -0700
> > To: krfp at radiofreemoscow.org,  "'Bill London'" london at moscow.com
> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Medical marijuana
> > 
> > > 
> > > As another native of Southern Arizona, I agree with Kai -- the "war on drugs" has been dreadfully ineffective and terribly unjust as a means of combating this nation's problems with drugs, crime, addiction, and the general breakdown of healthy society.  Which means, of course, that it's gone just swimmingly as a war on poor people, dark-skinned people, and women involved with bad  guys.   I for one believe that's neither an unintended consequence NOR a messy display of collateral damage, and the truly pro-life, pro-justice, pro-family and pro-Constitution'ers around us ought to examine just where and how we got so desperately off track.
> > > 
> > > Keely
> > > www.keely-prevailingwinds.com
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 20:57:42 -0700
> > > From: krfp at radiofreemoscow.org
> > > To: london at moscow.com
> > > CC: vision2020 at moscow.com; fotopro63 at hotmail.com
> > > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Medical marijuana
> > > 
> > > 
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> > >   
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> > > I second that!
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> > > 
> > > 
> > > Dave
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On 09/20/2010 11:31 AM, Bill London wrote:
> > > 
> > >   
> > >   
> > >   
> > >   Kai-
> > >   thanks for the view from the front lines....
> > >   i urge you to consider expanding this to a DN
> > > editorial
> > >   BL
> > >   
> > >     -----
> > > Original Message ----- 
> > >     From:
> > >     Kai Eiselein 
> > >     To:
> > >     vision2020 at moscow.com 
> > >     Sent:
> > > Sunday, September 19, 2010 8:04 PM
> > >     Subject:
> > > Re: [Vision2020] Medical marijuana
> > >     
> > > 
> > >     
> > > I spent several days in July wandering around southern Arizona, showing
> > > my wife where I grew up, visiting old friends and seeing what has
> > > changed since my last visit.
> > > 
> > > After being closely watched as we parked in the downtown Nogales area,
> > > just yards from the border to get a closer look at "the wall", being
> > > followed as we traveled the back roads near Arivaca and having to pass
> > > through Border Patrol checkpoints despite never having left United
> > > States soil, I have come to a conclusion:
> > > 
> > > The U.S. must legalize ALL drugs and tax the hell out of them.
> > > 
> > > This "war on drugs" has destroyed Nogales and the surrounding areas. A
> > > grade school I went to is having a large fence built around it, this
> > > after a BP agent went tearing through school grounds in an SUV while
> > > chasing someone. My old high school, which is now an alternative high
> > > school, has chain link topped by barbed wire around most of the campus,
> > > giving it the feel of a prison, not a school.
> > > 
> > > The entire city of Nogales has a weird vibe to it, mind you it has
> > > always been a tough border town, but this is different. There is an
> > > ominus feeling that was never there before, it permeates the city, one
> > > can feel it in stores, on the street and in restaurants. Even my wife
> > > commented on it and asked how we could have lived there for so long. I
> > > told her it wasn't like that when I was younger.
> > > 
> > > The area around Arivaca, a hamlet in the middle of the Sonoran Desert
> > > northeast of Nogales, is also much changed. At one time you'd be lucky
> > > if you passed 3 or 4 cars between Arivaca and Amado a distance of about
> > > 25 miles. We encountered no less than 26 during the trip there and
> > > back, not including those at the checkpoint.
> > > 
> > > I stopped a few times to get out take photos and point out things to my
> > > wife along the Arivaca Road and Ruby Road, which leads south to
> > > Nogales. On two occasions a BP truck parked where its occupant could
> > > observe us, once on the Arivaca Road and the other one Ruby Road where
> > > I got out to look over the property my parents used to own.
> > > 
> > > The solitude of the desert was shattered several times as choppers flew
> > > past, including one Blackhawk.
> > > 
> > > If you want to know what it is like to be in a police state, spend some
> > > time south of Tucson.
> > > 
> > >  
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> > > > Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 12:00:01 -0700
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> > > > 1. Re: Idaho medical marijuana law --draft (Tom Hansen)
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> > > > Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 14:35:04 -0700 (PDT)
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> > > > From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
> > > 
> > > > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Idaho medical marijuana law --draft
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> > > > To: "Bill London" <london at moscow.com>
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> > > > Cc: vision2020 <vision2020 at moscow.com>
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> > > > Marijuana Medicine Evaluation Centers of California
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> > > > (with locations in Sacramento, San Jose, Oakland, Camarillo, City
> > > of
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> > > > Industry, Woodland Hills, Lawndale, Santa Ana, San Diego, Norco)
> > > 
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> > > > http://www.mmecdoctors.com/
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> > > > They advertise in the San Francisco Chronicle.
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> > > > 
> > > 
> > > > WAKE UP, Idaho!!!
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> > > > 
> > > 
> > > > Tom Hansen
> > > 
> > > > Reno, Nevada
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> > > 
> > > > On Sat, September 18, 2010 2:01 pm, Bill London wrote:
> > > 
> > > > > Fwd: Returned mail: see transcript for detailsTom Trail sent
> > > this draft of
> > > 
> > > > > the Idaho Medical Marijuana Act ..(attached)...He is
> > > requesting input and
> > > 
> > > > > ideas
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