[Vision2020] rosey future for rabid liberal at loose ends?

keely emerinemix kjajmix1 at msn.com
Sat Nov 6 22:30:26 PDT 2010


Truthfully, I'd have to say that it's the "established" media, print and broadcast, who bring the most bias-free coverage, specifically NBC (my preferred network source), ABC, and CBS; and Time and Newsweek.  Now, I love Mother Jones and The Progressive, but I wouldn't presume to try to persuade you that they're editorially even-handed.  And they don't need to be, just as Fox and MSNBC don't need to be perfectly unbiased -- they offer analysis and commentary from differing perspectives, which is not only obvious but also by design.  Nonetheless, I read them, just as I read (courtesy of Roger) The National Review and the Wall Street Journal.  It's good to get all sides of an argument, but it's also important to discern what's news and what's discussion.  They both have their place, but they're not at all the same thing.  

Sadly, it seems that fewer and fewer Americans understand that.  And I think that of the two, MSNBC and Fox, it's Fox that more portrays itself as a "news" organization, and it isn't; putting it another way, I think Fox viewers are far more likely to feel suspicious of the networks as well as to believe -- sincerely but mistakenly -- that what they get from Fox is news, as opposed to commentary.  Further,  I find Fox' analysis and perspective to be much less intelligent, accurate, and reasonable than that of even the most strident MSNBC pundits.  I prefer MSNBC's Rachel Maddow to Keith Olbermann, and Olbermann to virtually anyone ever featured on Fox, but not even I would suggest that MSNBC is without bias.  I just think it's much less without fear-mongering and jingoist bigotry than Fox, and that's important to me.

Keely
www.keely-prevailingwinds.com




From: jampot at roadrunner.com
To: kjajmix1 at msn.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] rosey future for rabid liberal at loose ends?
Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2010 19:47:10 -0700










And I would suggest that you are in 
error. While I don't for a second believe that what is broadcast on programs 
such as The Factor, Glenn Beck's show, or Hannity qualifies as news, I don't 
believe that the brass at FOX would try and have you buy it either. On the other 
hand segments such as News Watch, Fox News Weekend, America's Newsroom, and Fox 
Report with Shepard Smith are as objective as anything on broadcast television. 
I also believe that On the Record with Greta Van Sustren (no conservative, her) 
and Fox News Sunday with Chris Wallace does a good job of delivering objective 
information with balanced analysis. Dismissing FOX because you disagree with a 
few of their talking heads is as silly as a conservative rejecting everything 
reported in the NYT because of its demonstrated editorial slant. If there is a 
news source that brings absolutely no baggage to its reporting I'd love to hear 
about it.
 
g




From: keely emerinemix 
Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 6:47 PM
To: jampot at roadrunner.com ; vision2020 at moscow.com 
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] rosey future for rabid liberal at loose 
ends?

Hey, if Olbermann knowingly violated his employers' policies, he 
got what he ought to have gotten.  No scandal there.

But the 
question of  Fox News being "fair and balanced" obscures the real point, 
which is whether or not Fox News is really "news."  I don't think we need 
to have the lexicography battle that we've been having over "to bear," but no 
one who's ever produced, studied, or benefited from real journalism -- real news 
gathering and news reporting -- would seriously suggest that Fox is "news" in 
any way, shape, or form.  

Fox News is nothing more than "Open Mic 
Night" in a room full of culturally insecure, frightened and naive Christian 
conservatives trying to earn the respect of the swaggering rich, important guys 
across the bar.  The rich guys drink better beer and drive more expensive 
cars, but the Religious Right has some really attractive sisters they bring to 
the ball, and that makes everyone in the room fast friends -- to the enrichment 
of the guys operating the microphone.

Keely
www.keely-prevailingwinds.com






From: jampot at roadrunner.com
To: vision2020 at moscow.com
Date: Sat, 6 Nov 
2010 12:01:46 -0700
Subject: [Vision2020] rosey future for rabid liberal at 
loose ends?



Anybody care to speculate on how 
long it takes for unceremoniously sacked  MSNBC hack, Keith 
Olbermann to swallow what little pride he may have left and accept 
a position along side Alan Colmes, Mara Liasson, Juan Williams, Bob 
Beckel, Kirsten Powers, Susan Estrich, Tammy Bruce, Pat Caddell, etc. over 
at what appears to be the only fair and balance news source, FOX? The idea 
of watching him on Sean Hannity's show makes me laugh just thinking about 
it.
 
g
======================================================= 
List services made available by First Step Internet, serving the communities of 
the Palouse since 1994. http://www.fsr.net mailto:Vision2020 at moscow.com 
======================================================= 		 	   		  
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/attachments/20101106/eeef3cca/attachment.html 


More information about the Vision2020 mailing list