[Vision2020] Pres mans-up, Crabtree doesn't

[Art Deco]

Does that reasonable time to respond extend to years?  Crabtree frequently ignores the hard questions.  

Several years ago when Crabtree first appeared on V 2020, I tried to engage him in a dialogue on free enterprise.  I wrote a longer note covering several points.  His response was terse indicating that I couldn't summarize his philosophy in a few words.  He did not respond to any of the issues I raised.

This is not infrequent behavior.

Just last week in the discussion about Representative Shirley Ringo and the NRA, Crabtree asserted:

"My point is why would be want to send to Boise someone whose views differed so jarringly with those of the majority of the districts residents and who would be so totally out of step with Idaho's sporting heritage?"

I stated in answer to his assertions:

"There are many issues at stake in this (and generally in most elections).  Perhaps a candidate's position on weapon control/laws is a litmus test for some part of the electorate; it appears to be to so for Gary.  Others may have  different litmus tests, but hopefully most voters will base their decision after learning a candidate's position a wide variety of issues.

Further, not all sportspersons/hunters/etc are completely in accord with the extreme positions of the NRA.  Some oppose allowing the use of automatic or even semi-automatic weapons for hunting purposes.  Some even oppose the possession of such weapons for any purposes except by law enforcement officers and military personnel.  Among sportspersons and all the rest of Idaho citizens there is a great diversity of views on weapon control/laws and weapon possession, and there is a great diversity of views on the relative importance of that issue for a state legislator."

It would be hard to deny the reality or relevance of my comments to the issue.  Not only did Crabtree not respond to them, but continued to assert the same as before in a subsequent V 2020 post about Ringo.

Crabtree has learned well from his idol, Cultmaster Douglas Wilson:  If you can't make a rational response without either looking stupid or in error, ignore the question/issue.

I leave to readers to judge the courage and integrity of such tactics.


Wayne A. Fox
1009 Karen Lane
PO Box 9421
Moscow, ID  83843

waf at moscow.com
208 882-7975


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Paul Rumelhart 
  To: Art Deco 
  Cc: Vision 2020 
  Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 10:29 AM
  Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Pres mans-up, Crabtree doesn't



  His last post was like 6:30 or something.  The guy does have a day job.  
  Maybe we should give him reasonable time to respond before we all assume 
  he can't answer the question?

  Paul

  Art Deco wrote:
  > Aside from the fact that Gary is shrewd enough not to respond to 
  > questions whose answers might make him look either ridiculous or 
  > inconsistent with some of his other utterances, maybe we should give 
  > him a break and charitably assume that Keystone (The Official Beer of 
  > Litterers) makes it hard at certain times for him to chew and digest 
  > more than a tiny bit at a helping.
  >  
  > w.
  >
  >     ----- Original Message -----
  >     *From:* Garrett Clevenger <mailto:garrettmc at frontier.com>
  >     *To:* vision2020_moscow.com <mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com>
  >     *Sent:* Thursday, November 04, 2010 9:05 AM
  >     *Subject:* [Vision2020] Pres mans-up, Crabtree doesn't
  >
  >     Joe, don't expect Mr. Crabtree to answer your questions.
  >
  >     He's good at ranting, but horrible at giving reasonable answers to
  >     questions.
  >
  >     He bashed Ringo over her gun stance, yet when asked:
  >
  >     "Should it be open-ended where anybody is allowed to bear (hold
  >     and use) any arm (weapon) at anyplace for any reason, or should
  >     there be regulations to insure others' rights are not infringed?"
  >
  >     There is utter silence.
  >
  >     That's not the first time he refuses to answer questions, so I've
  >     come to expect that from him.
  >
  >     gclev
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