[Vision2020] Former US Senator & 9/11 Commissoner Max Cleland

[Garrett Clevenger]

Keely asks:


"can someone explain what it is that makes some believe there were specific acts committed in service of deliberate scenarios that left more than 3,000 people dead in PA, NYC, and DC -- and that these acts were committed by our government against its own people?"




Governments have done way worse.  


History shows there are despicable people who use their power in such a way.  


Whether it was this government or a Saudi fanatic, some person chose to do such a thing, which shows that people can be very, very bad.


Also, people are gullible and will believe anything.  I'm sure some think it was aliens who controlled the minds of some poor earthling who was the real terrorist.


There's probably even someone out there who thinks it was me!

Garrett Clevenger

--- On Wed, 3/24/10, keely emerinemix <kjajmix1 at msn.com> wrote:

From: keely emerinemix <kjajmix1 at msn.com>
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Former US Senator & 9/11 Commissoner Max Cleland
To: moscowrecycling at turbonet.com, lfalen at turbonet.com, garrettmc at verizon.net
Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
Date: Wednesday, March 24, 2010, 12:41 PM





 
Excellent point, but I think it's also important to realize that it was the Bush administration, pre-9/11, which was laying the groundwork for war in Iraq -- facts be damned -- and led a devil's rush in precisely, exactly, the direction from which the attacks didn't come.  The Clinton presidency was highly imperfect, but it wasn't his administration that desperately sought reason to invade Iraq under the flimsiest of pretenses.  

I've looked over some 9/11 conspiracy sites and find them interesting but not terribly convincing.  I'm wondering how those who believe there was a conspiracy -- not of individual acts of omission, but of specific acts of comission -- explain jetliners full of victims vaporized on contact.  If I read correctly, some even think the planes were empty, or largely so, and the examination of passenger manifests surely would rule that out.  (Manifests, and common sense).

So I understand the "they shoulda known" element of the "conspiracy," I suppose, but can someone explain what it is that makes some believe there were specific acts committed in service of deliberate scenarios that left more than 3,000 people dead in PA, NYC, and DC -- and that these acts were committed by our government against its own people?

Keely
www.keely-prevailingwinds.com




> From: moscowrecycling at turbonet.com
> To: lfalen at turbonet.com; garrettmc at verizon.net
> Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 11:24:11 -0700
> CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Former US Senator & 9/11 Commissoner Max Cleland
> 
> I'll put blame on the economy as far back as Reagan for deregulating wall 
> street.
> Andy Boyd
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "lfalen" <lfalen at turbonet.com>
> To: "Garrett Clevenger" <garrettmc at verizon.net>
> Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 10:59 AM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Former US Senator & 9/11 Commissoner Max Cleland
> 
> 
> >I do not wish to exonerate Bush in this. I think that his people should 
> >have been more on top of it. It does seem funny to me though that Obama 
> >still blaming every thing wrong with the economy on Bush. You should 
> >remember that 9/11 occurred shortly after Bush took office. Why not put 
> >some of the blame on Clinton?
> > Roger
> > -----Original message-----
> > From: Garrett Clevenger garrettmc at verizon.net
> > Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 19:42:23 -0700
> > To: lfalen lfalen at turbonet.com
> > Subject: Re: Former US Senator & 9/11 Commissoner Max Cleland
> >
> >> Roger writes:
> >> "There has many books written,lawsuits and movies about the Warren 
> >> Commission also. Anybody can write a book speculating on conspiracies. 
> >> This is not proof of anything."
> >>
> >> True, anybody could write a book about anything, including a particular 
> >> religion, but that is not proof of anything.
> >> The ironic thing is that 911 was supposedly islamic terrorist based which 
> >> was leapt upon by christians, including WBush, both with religions based 
> >> upon mostly the same book speculating what God wants. But it doesn't make 
> >> it true.
> >> A lot of damage is caused by people who believe what a certain book says, 
> >> so believe me, I'm skeptical about pretty much everything.
> >> But, common sense dictates that if powerful people espoused a certain 
> >> belief as pointed out by Ted 
> >> (http://www.newamericancentury.org/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf) and 
> >> then that unfolds while they are in power, then I have to question that 
> >> coincidence.
> >> I have no idea what the truth is around 911, but I do see that the 
> >> consequences were way worse than they needed to be, and I blame that on 
> >> those who were in power at the time.
> >> Since there is a lot of evidence to suggest either incompetence or 
> >> purposeful malfeasance, as a conscious human I can't help but be 
> >> irritated by that, and at least have an open mind about possible 
> >> scenarios.
> >> After all, truth is often more unbelievable than fiction...
> >>
> >> Garrett Clevenger
> >>
> >
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