[Vision2020] The Power Hour "Libertarian" Radio Show PromotesClaim of 9/11 Cover-up[

lfalen lfalen at turbonet.com
Mon Mar 15 11:26:28 PDT 2010


Your history is distorted. Bush did not allow 9/11 to happen anymore than FDR allowed Pearl Harbor to happen( I am not a fan of either). On Pearl Harbor the Japanese code was broken and a message was sent out. Neither  FDR or the military higher ups received it.
Roger
-----Original message-----
From: Ted Moffett starbliss at gmail.com
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 13:33:05 -0700
To: Paul Rumelhart godshatter at yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The Power Hour "Libertarian" Radio Show PromotesClaim of 9/11 Cover-up[

> President Bush's August briefing before 9/11 explicitly stated "Bin Laden
> determined to strike in US."
> 
> I question the theory that the 9/11 attacks and the collapse of the
> buildings involved was orchestrated by agents of the US.  But the theory
> that 9/11 was "allowed" to happen, that there was substantial evidence that
> terrorists were going to strike the US, but the aggressive actions required
> to stop the attack were deliberately avoided, is possible, given that the
> neo-con "Project for the New American Century" explicitly stated in military
> think tank analysis prior to 9/11 ("Rebuilding America's Defenses: Strategy,
> Forces and Resources for a New Century" September 2000:
> http://www.newamericancentury.org/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf  ), that a
> "new Pearl Harbor" would provide the justification for the expansion of US
> military power into the Middle East and elsewhere.
> 
> At best, the fact that more aggressive steps were not taken to stop the 9/11
> attacks, reveals gross incompetence, if not a deliberate conspiracy to
> exploit a major terror attack against the US as a "new Pearl Harbor" to
> expand US military/economic hegemony.  Cheney and Rumsfeld signed the
> "Statement of Principles" for the "Project for the New American Century" in
> 1997 ( http://www.newamericancentury.org/statementofprinciples.htm ).  It is
> no surprise they assumed positions of great power in the second Bush
> administration, given the agenda to expand US military/economic hegemony was
> planned well in advance, if they could gain the White House back.
> 
> I won't continue a history lesson here (the two websites below offer a
> critical analysis of 9/11 orthodoxy).  But there are very serious questions
> that can be raised regarding why more aggressive steps were not taken to
> stop the 9/11 plot, given the information we know the US government
> possessed regarding the plans for a terror attack on the US, who might carry
> out such an attack, and that use of commercial aircraft as terror weapons
> was known prior to 9/11 as a likely method.  Bush administration national
> security advisor Condoleeza Rice was either woefully uninformed, which I
> doubt given her intelligence, or engaging in "spin" propaganda to hide the
> tracks of Bush administration failures regarding the 9/11 attacks, when she
> made the statements quoted from the second website below:
> 
> http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO405E.html
> 
> ---------------------
> http://www.historycommons.org/timeline.jsp?the_post-9/11_world=denials&timeline=complete_911_timeline
> 
> >From website immediately above:
>  May 16, 2002: Nobody Predicted 9/11-Style Attacks, Says Condoleezza
> Rice<http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=a051602rice#a051602rice>
> [image: Edit event]<http://www.historycommons.org/eventedit.jsp?oid=1626004942-36209&drafts=null&timeline=complete_911_timeline>
> 
> 
> [image: National Security Adviser Rice tries to explain what Bush knew and
> when in her May 16, 2002 press conference.]National Security Adviser Rice
> tries to explain what Bush knew and when in her May 16, 2002 press
> conference. *[Source: CNN]*National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice
> states, “I don’t think anybody could have predicted that these people would
> take an airplane and slam it into the World Trade Center, take another one
> and slam it into the Pentagon, that they would try to use an airplane as a
> missile,” adding that “even in retrospect” there was “nothing” to suggest
> that. [White House,
> 5/16/2002<http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/05/20020516-13.html>
> ] Contradicting Rice’s claims, former CIA Deputy Director John Gannon
> acknowledges that such a scenario has long been taken seriously by US
> intelligence: “If you ask anybody could terrorists convert a plane into a
> missile? [N]obody would have ruled that out.” Rice also states, “The
> overwhelming bulk of the evidence was that this was an attack that was
> likely to take place overseas.” [MSNBC, 5/17/2002] Slate awards Rice the
> “Whopper of the Week” when the title of Bush’s August 6 briefing is
> revealed: “Bin Laden Determined to Strike in US.” [Slate,
> 5/23/2002<http://slate.msn.com/?id=2066154>
> ] Rice later will concede that “somebody did imagine it” but will say she
> did not know about such intelligence until well after this conference.
> [Associated
> Press, 9/21/2002]
> ------------------------------------------
> 
> Vision2020 Post: Ted Moffett
> On 3/14/10, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Trust, once lost, takes a lot of work to get back.  When you have the U.S.
> > government arming Osama and the CIA enabling drug trafficking for the
> > Contras, it's not a big stretch to wonder if they had any involvement in
> > 9/11.  There are enough strange things surrounding 9/11 that I would not be
> > surprised to find the government was involved.
> >
> > The reason I obey traffic laws has more to do with safety than trust of the
> > government.  Generally, the system works well enough that you can at least
> > have some faith in a contract, and some hope the police will respond if you
> > call them.  I wouldn't want to be the guy that happened across some
> > confidential documents or saw the wrong thing go down at the wrong time,
> > though.
> >
> > Paul
> >
> > Wayne Price wrote:
> >
> >> Ted, et al,
> >>
> >> One has to ask, or at least I do, why would people put any faith in these
> >> wild stories?  While, I don't agree with 9/11 being an inside job, there is
> >> a general distrust of ALL levels of government that just
> >> feed  into things like this. And not just on the national level, but more
> >> importantly at the local levels as well. For instance, does anyone living in
> >> Northern Idaho really think the "boys in Boise"  even care about North
> >> Idaho?
> >> If they feel that way, why? Does anyone trust an employment contract or
> >> retirement contract with the U of I? If not, why? Can you trust that the
> >> speed limits on our county roads are legitimate? If not, why?
> >>
> >>
> >> Distrust of "government",once it starts, is hard to turn around and I
> >> believe that in America, we have a long long way to go. Perceptions, good or
> >> bad are real, even though they may not be true. And it is in the light of
> >> those perceptions  that people live, not in light of the truth or falsity of
> >> an issue.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> On Mar 13, 2010, at 4:42 PM, Ted Moffett wrote:
> >>
> >> There are a lot of "conservatives" who believe in a government cover-up
> >>> regarding the facts of 9/11.
> >>>  There is a radio show that has a large following that has been on the
> >>> air for years, that I have listened to numerous times on shortwave, that is
> >>> very political but in some ways hard to stereotype.  I suppose you could
> >>> call it hard core libertarian (they passionately promoted Ron Paul's
> >>> presidential bid), which means that it is very distrustful of government in
> >>> a consistent aggressive way that many traditional "mainstream" conservatives
> >>> are not.  Anti-abortion views are expressed, which fits the current
> >>> Republican agenda, but there are two issues that have received a lot of air
> >>> time where the show has argued for government cover-ups, Gulf War Syndrome
> >>> among vets, and 9/11.  This show aggressively attacked the Bush
> >>> administration, and is doing the same to Obama's.  Main website for this
> >>> radio show:
> >>>  http://www.thepowerhour.com/
> >>>  ---------------------------------------------
> >>> The following documentary described at the website below, promoted by
> >>> "The Power Hour," pulls no punches regarding what it claims was "a massive
> >>> cover-up" regarding 9/11:
> >>>  http://www.thepowermall.com/
> >>>  *911 In Plane Site
> >>>
> >>> *New* "The Directors Cut" *with *"More Footage - More Photographs - More
> >>> Evidence" *
> >>>
> >>> *PRODUCER: Dave vonKleist*
> >>> DIRECTOR: William Lewis
> >>>
> >>> Due to the overwhelming response of "911 In Plane Site," we were able to
> >>> collect mountains of new footage and photographs from sources all over the
> >>> world. We can now say, without a shadow of doubt, that we have undeniable
> >>> evidence of a massive cover-up. From the 16 ft. hole in the outer walls of
> >>> the Pentagon to the news reports of bombs, explosions and potential
> >>> demolition of World Trade Centers 1, 2 and 7, to the strange attachment on
> >>> the bottom of Flight 175 and the mysterious flashes caught on videotape by
> >>> at least five separate sources, it is clear - 911 was an inside job.
> >>>
> >>> From Dave vonKleist, co-host of The Power Hour radio program and
> >>> writer/producer of the album "Will Someone Listen" & William Lewis, producer
> >>> of "American Freedom News", "TruNews" and producer/writer of the album
> >>> "Police State" comes a full length documentary exposing one of the largest
> >>> conspiracies ever uncovered. With the pounding force of a sledgehammer you
> >>> will find yourself horrified and astonished at the shear scope of the
> >>> largest transgressions ever carried out against the people of the United
> >>> States and indeed... of the entire world.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ------------------------------------------
> >>> Vision2020 Post: Ted Moffett
> >>> On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 12:14 PM, Gier, Nicholas <NGIER at uidaho.edu<mailto:
> >>> NGIER at uidaho.edu>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>    Greetings:
> >>>
> >>>    The Tea Party candidate in the three-way primary for Texas
> >>>    governor said to Glenn Beck that she was still looking at the
> >>>    evidence for a 9-11 cover-up.  Beck's response was something like
> >>>    "We'd better look at another candidate!"  Yes the Tea Party
> >>>    people include not only "birthers" but "truthers."
> >>>
> >>>    Nick Gier
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>    -----Original Message-----
> >>>    From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com
> >>>    <mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com> on behalf of Garrett Clevenger
> >>>    Sent: Fri 3/12/2010 11:36 AM
> >>>    To: vision2020 at moscow.com <mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com>
> >>>    Subject: Re: [Vision2020] teabaggers
> >>>
> >>>    "I have yet to see you, Tom, Nick or Wayne comment on those left
> >>>    wingers
> >>>    that think that 9/11 was an inside job of the Bush Administration."
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>    I don't think only some left-wingers believe that.  Some
> >>>    far-righters think there is a greater conspiracy relating to
> >>>    that, too.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>    I don't think it's a stretch, though, to assume GWB used 911 to
> >>>    advance an agenda they had been planning on for a while (the
> >>>    PATRIOT act, invading Iraq, etc)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>    That makes GWB look suspicious, especially considering some of
> >>>    the discrepancies surrounding the 911 commission, which Bush
> >>>    initially was against.
> >>>
> >>>    It's also suspicious that that Bush and Cheney both refused to
> >>>    testify under oath to the 911 commission.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>    Until someone looks at the arguments the 911 truthers are
> >>>    conveying (and there is lots of interesting arguments in their
> >>>    favor) you probably shouldn't be condemning what they say.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>    I have no idea what the truth is, but I do know that powerful
> >>>    people are in control and do despicable things to advance their
> >>>    power, whether thats an islamofacist or whoever...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>    Garrett Clevenger
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> 
> 



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