[Vision2020] Examples Debunk Health Care Myths

Donovan Arnold donovanjarnold2008 at yahoo.com
Mon Mar 8 01:07:11 PST 2010


"I busted all of these myths in a column"--Dr. Gier to Keely
 
I am glad all these columns have given big bursting busts to these misleading miserable myths, however, the point is still being missed. 
 
People need health care, and they have it. They don't want their health care messed with because it threatens their lifestyle and even their lives and the lives of their loved ones.
 
The Obama administration is acting like they are just going to move some furniture around, and it isn't a big deal. People don't see it that way, they see this a complex deeply personal and emotional issue.
 
People do not have a clear understanding of the changes that are being proposed, how it will effect them, and how the system would work. They only know this system. And until it can be clearly, plainly, and simply laid out for them, they are not going to take any chances with messing with their life and well-being. 
 
My suggestion would be to make changes incrementally one at a time, starting with obvious abuses and problems with the health care system. For example, price gouging of people should stop. What US Senator is going to openly defend charging their constituents $1000 for toothbrush, or $120 for a couple of aspirin? 
 
Then work down to less sexy stuff that makes up the many pages of health care coverage. Obama's approach of, "Just trust me!", doesn't work for the majority of Americans. They want to see and understand each and every change and have a chance to understand it and ask questions, it is their life we are talking about. 
 
Obama and Congress needs to first demonstrate they can make some small effective changes to the system before we let him completely dismantle and reassemble the entire system. 
You don't throw your children the keys to the Cadillac and say drive across town. You start by having them first demonstrate they can safely back out of the driveway and around the block without injury or damage. Health care has to be handled the same way.
 
It is not that people don't believe our health care system isn't broken, or that there isn't a better way of providing health care, it is that we know from personal experience and History that our government is gifted and talented at making very bad situations even worse.  
 
Your Friend,
 
Donovan Arnold

--- On Mon, 3/8/10, nickgier at roadrunner.com <nickgier at roadrunner.com> wrote:


From: nickgier at roadrunner.com <nickgier at roadrunner.com>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Examples Debunk Health Care Myths
To: vision2020 at moscow.com, "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>, "keely emerinemix" <kjajmix1 at msn.com>
Date: Monday, March 8, 2010, 6:59 AM


Hi Tom and Keely,

I busted all of these myths in a column "America's Health Care: A National Disgrace and an International Embarrassment," which I posted right here in January, 2007.  It can be read at www.home.roadrunner.com/~nickgier/health.htm

I'm afraid our health care will be at the bottom of the industrialized world for years to come.

Nick

---- keely emerinemix <kjajmix1 at msn.com> wrote: 
> 
> Thanks, Tom, for this valuable and important information.  
> 
> Universal care NOW!!!!
> 
> Keely
> www.keely-prevailingwinds.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 13:21:02 -0800
> > From: thansen at moscow.com
> > To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> > Subject: [Vision2020] Examples Debunk Health Care Myths
> > 
> > Courtesy of today's (March 7, 2010) Spokesman-Review and Trudy Rubin.
> > 
> > --------------------------------------------------
> > 
> > Examples debunk health care myths
> > Trudy Rubin, The Spokesman-Review
> > 
> > One of the most bewildering aspects of the current health care debate is
> > the failure to learn key lessons from health systems abroad.
> > 
> > Conservative talk show hosts decry the alleged evils of “socialized
> > medicine” in countries with universal health coverage; they warn grimly of
> > rationed health care. Yet there’s nary a peep from Rush Limbaugh or Glenn
> > Beck – let alone Congress – about countries such as Germany, France,
> > Switzerland, or Japan, where coverage is universal, affordable, and top
> > quality, and patients see private doctors with little or no waiting.
> > 
> > And, oh yes, their health costs are a fraction of our bloated numbers: The
> > French spend 10 percent of GDP on health care, the Germans 11 percent, and
> > they cover every citizen. We spend a whopping 17 percent and leave tens of
> > millions of Americans uninsured.
> > 
> > If you want a very readable short course how European systems really work,
> > take a look at “The Healing of America: A Global Quest for Better,
> > Cheaper, and Fairer Health Care,” by T.R. Reid, a former Washington Post
> > foreign correspondent. You might also watch a fascinating 2008 “Frontline”
> > series, available online, in which Reid was an adviser: “Sick Around the
> > World: Can the U.S. Learn Anything From the Rest of the World About How to
> > Run a Health Care System?”
> > 
> > So far, the answer seems to be “No,” not because there aren’t valuable
> > lessons, but because politicians won’t relinquish their myths about
> > European health systems. Reid takes up that task.
> > 
> > Myth No. 1, he says, is that foreign systems with universal coverage are
> > all “socialized medicine.” In countries such as France, Germany,
> > Switzerland and Japan, the coverage is universal while doctors and
> > insurers are private. Individuals get their insurance through their
> > workplace, sharing the premium with their employer as we do – and the
> > government picks up the premium if they lose their job.
> > 
> > Myth No. 2, “long waits and rationed care,” is another whopper. “In many
> > developed countries,” Reid writes, “people have quicker access to care and
> > more choice than Americans do.” In France, Germany and Japan, you can pick
> > any provider or hospital in the country. Care is speedy and high quality,
> > and no one is turned down.
> > 
> > Myth No. 3 really grabs my attention: the delusion that countries with
> > universal care “are wasteful systems run by bloated bureaucracies.” In
> > fact, the opposite is true.
> > 
> > America’s for-profit health insurance companies have the highest
> > administrative costs of any developed country. Twenty percent or more of
> > every premium dollar goes to nonmedical costs: paperwork, marketing,
> > profits, etc. In developed countries with universal coverage, such as
> > France and Germany, the administrative costs average about 5 percent.
> > That’s because every developed country but ours has decided health
> > insurance should be a nonprofit operation. (We once thought that, too,
> > until private insurance companies began buying up nonprofit health
> > insurers like Blue Cross and Blue Shield and converting them into
> > profit-makers.) In France and Germany, health insurance is sold by private
> > insurers, who can only charge fixed rates in the nonprofit health field
> > but can sell other forms of insurance for a profit.
> > 
> > These countries also hold down costs by making coverage mandatory and by
> > using a unified set of rules and payment schedules for all hospitals and
> > doctors. This does not mean a single-payer system or a government-run
> > health system. But it does sharply cut health costs by eliminating the
> > mishmash of records and charges used by our myriad insurance firms, who
> > use all kinds of gimmicks to shift their costs. A unified system makes it
> > possible for France and Germany to use digital records; every insured
> > person has a smart card that includes all his or her health information,
> > further cutting the number of bureaucrats. U.S. companies oppose such
> > efficiencies, Reid says, “because they spend money on proprietary systems
> > and no one wants to get together on a common system.” Can we afford this
> > stubbornness?
> > 
> > For those who think we could never make the switch to such systems, take
> > note that Switzerland shifted from private health insurers to nonprofits
> > in 1994. None of these European plans have to be adopted wholesale.
> > 
> > Yet there’s no sign we’re even examining them for useful lessons. Some
> > U.S. senators on the Finance Committee bought Reid’s book, but have you
> > heard anyone talk about European health systems? Of course not. It’s
> > easier to embrace our myths and pretend Americans know best about managing
> > health care. But that’s the biggest myth of them all.
> > 
> > --------------------------------------------------
> > 
> > Seeya round town, Moscow.
> > 
> > Tom Hansen
> > Moscow, Idaho
> > 
> > "The Pessimist complains about the wind, the Optimist expects it to change
> > and the Realist adjusts his sails."
> > 
> > - Unknown
> > 
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