[Vision2020] Say Whut?
Paul Rumelhart
godshatter at yahoo.com
Sun Jan 24 07:32:28 PST 2010
Characterizing them as "lawbreakers" is disingenuous. They are breaking
the immigration laws, yes, but calling them "lawbreakers" makes it sound
like they are murderers and rapists. However, for the most part, they
are hard-working people that blow the average American's work ethic
away. They work hard, make what is for them a large amount of cash, and
then go back home and spend it. Why not leverage that work ethic for
our country? Why not make it possible for them to make the money
legally here, tax it, and encourage them to spend it in this country?
I agree with your point about those that can work and do not work yet
take advantage of the various programs out there. The hard part is
always filtering them out.
Paul
Donovan Arnold wrote:
> Paul, Glen, Keely, etc.,
>
> Why don't we first give the opportunities to law abiding citizens that
> have been working and paying taxes for decades in this country, then
> work on the opportunities for lawbreakers and those that don't pay taxes?
>
> It seems to me that all the people that don't work, or don't want to
> work, or don't get an education to support all the dependents they
> create. or break the law, get all the freebies on the backs of those
> that do work and do what they are suppose to do.
>
> The government should NOT be giving away free goods to people that can
> and do not work. They should only be giving tax credits and incentives
> to businesses to create jobs or the government should create jobs and
> pay people to work. They should not be giving things away at the
> expense of people that work, or working people of future generations.
>
> How about more incentives to find a job, any job, save, be healthy,
> and be a law abiding citizen. How about free health for those that
> keep healthy and don't commit a felony. How about free education to
> anyone paying taxes for 25 years? How about free food stamps to those
> that keep a job? How about an income tax free life about 40 years of
> paying taxes?
>
> Nope, all the free crap has to go to those that commit crimes, don't
> want to work, or can work the system.
>
> Native peoples of the Americas believed that it is responsibility of
> each generation to ensure the future of the next seven generations..
> Our philosophy has been to ensure the demise and failure of the next
> seven generations by burying them in massive debt.
>
> Your Friend,
>
> Donovan Arnold
>
>
>
> --- On *Sun, 1/24/10, Paul Rumelhart /<godshatter at yahoo..com>/* wrote:
>
>
> From: Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Say Whut?
> To: "Glenn Schwaller" <vpschwaller at gmail.com>
> Cc: "vision2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Date: Sunday, January 24, 2010, 1:28 AM
>
>
> Sounds like we're in agreement, then. Let's grant the kids of
> illegal
> aliens legal status so they can then improve the brain trust and help
> out our tax base.
>
> Paul
>
> Glenn Schwaller wrote:
> > The UW president's approach is backwards - obtain legal status
> in the
> > country THEN you may pursue the rights, privileges and opportunities
> > of all citizens and those with legal status. Doesn't matter if it's
> > education, jobs, health care, bank loans, housing, day care, food
> > stamps, whatever. Legal first - "stuff" second.
> >
> > Quite simple really. I'm surprised it had to be spelled out for
> you.
> >
> > GS
> >
> > On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 12:41 PM, keely emerinemix
> <kjajmix1 at msn.com
> <http://us.mc447.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=kjajmix1@msn.com>>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Gee, I'm guessing that Glenn and I both reacted strongly to
> this. My
> >> reaction was favorable, though, given that virtually all of
> these kids came
> >> here as children with their parents, and given that the US
> needs an increase
> >> in both its brain trust and its tax base. This would provide both.
> >>
> >> So why is it that I'm not expecting Glenn to celebrate with
> me? I'd
> >> appreciate his comments.
> >>
> >> Keely
> >> www.keely-prevailingwinds.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 10:07:28 -0800
> >>> From: vpschwaller at gmail.com
> <http://us.mc447.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vpschwaller@gmail.com>
> >>> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> <http://us.mc447..mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vision2020@moscow.com>
> >>> Subject: [Vision2020] Say Whut?
> >>>
> >>> "University of Washington president Mark Emmert said he supports
> >>> allowing illegal immigrant students to attend college as a
> pathway to
> >>> permanent residency and US citizenship. Those students . . . could
> >>> take out student loans."
> >>>
> >>> GS
> >>>
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