[Vision2020] Freedom of expression

Dave tiedye at turbonet.com
Sun Dec 12 13:59:49 PST 2010


"The state can't give you freedom, and the state can't take it away. You're
born with it, like your eyes, like your ears. Freedom is something you
assume, then you wait for someone to try to take it away. The degree to
which you resist is the degree to which you are free..."
--- Utah Phillips 
<http://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/768960.Utah_Phillips>

Dave


On 12/12/2010 01:46 PM, Paul Rumelhart wrote:
> And I'm not just talking about Freedom of Speech as codified in the Bill
> of Rights.  That's only there to keep our government from trampling on
> freedom of expression, which is a right we all have regardless of the
> Bill of Rights.
>
> If this discussion had nothing to do with freedom of expression, then
> the topics would change from "violent rhetoric" and "this offends me" to
> "secularism doesn't have to be the enemy of Christian thought" and
> "exactly what is secularism and why does it frighten them so".
>
> You see what I'm sayin'?
>
> Paul
>
> Tom Hansen wrote:
>> Paul Rumelhart stated:
>>
>> "I think the freedom of an individual or group of individuals to express
>> themselves is sacrosanct.  The freedom to express your opinion should be
>> held dearly by everyone, if they want to live in a free society."
>>
>> Nobody is arguing against NSA's right to speak or their right to post
>> comments on their website.
>>
>> Nick Gier and Joe Campbell are merely argiung that the statements made by
>> NSA are inappropriate, analagous to those complaints made here on the Viz
>> (and a local blahg) against those of us who express our displeasure with a
>> certain local un-pastor.
>>
>> New Saint Andrews College and its "management" are free to post whatever
>> commentary they like.  Just as each of us has the right to evaluate the
>> appropriateness of those comments.
>>
>> Yasee what I'm sayin'?
>>
>> Now, I may be going out on a limb here by suggesting that there are some
>> Viz subscribers that feel less than thrilled by comments I have made, and
>> they have every right to express their displeasure.  Many of them have.
>> And in the future many more will.
>>
>> And yet life goes on.
>>
>> Seeya round town, Moscow.
>>
>> Tom Hansen
>> Moscow, Idaho
>>
>> "The Pessimist complains about the wind, the Optimist expects it to change
>> and the Realist adjusts his sails."
>>
>> - Unknown
>>
>>
>>
>>
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