[Vision2020] The Vision 2020 Mission Statement

[Matt Decker]

Joe,
 
        My offer for a cup of Jo or brew has always stood. Perhaps it would do us both good. If not, I hope you understand, my intensions are not to silence.
 
Take care,
Matt
 
> Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2010 14:35:21 -0800
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The Vision 2020 Mission Statement
> From: philosopher.joe at gmail.com
> To: mattd2107 at hotmail.com
> CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
> 
> Matt,
> 
> I didn't mean to suggest in anything that I have said that I haven't
> done anything wrong in any of my conversations on the V with Darrell
> or anyone else; that I haven't been rude or insulting. I have been.
> I'm sorry if I've offended you or Darrell or anyone. No doubt that's
> not enough. It is hard for one person to know what offends another.
> Certainly things that I say in public that get a laugh don't get a
> laugh on the V. Maybe I've been too slow to see that. I know I have
> other amends to make but I'm not going to do it here.
> 
> It is hard to get to know people on the V but I thought I always made
> it clear that there are some things that bother me, especially in
> public conversations like those on the V:
> a) telling me to "take it off-line";
> b) even mentioning my job in a political discussion;
> c) insulting me;
> d) insulting me about my job in a political discussion and then
> telling me to take it off-line.
> 
> If you know anything about me, you know this much. If I didn't respect
> you and I didn't respect Darrell, I'd have dropped this conversation
> long ago. I know there are better things I can do with my time. (What
> is that cheer I hear in the background?)
> 
> My point is simple. Telling me what to post on the V is like telling
> you where to put your guns. It is laughable. Give it a rest.
> 
> I'll stay true to my word though and after today I don't plan to do
> any posting. Silent night! (Not that you can't say what you wish!)
> 
> Best, Joe
> 
> On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 9:24 AM, Matt Decker <mattd2107 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Joe. First of all Happy Birthday. May tomorrow bring you happiness and well
> > being.
> >
> > With that said, off to the nitty gritty. Please tell me how I have
> > restricted or attempted to silence you or your right to free speech? Have I
> > told you to shut up? or zip it? The answer is no Joe, plain and simple. I
> > believe Darrel offered a home brewed beer to help calm the storm. I've
> > offered in the past to buy a cup of coffee or a beer. Both of us did so
> > with intensions of thoughtful conversation and educated dialogue. Both
> > attempts have been declined. Doesn't seem like an attempt of silencing to
> > me.
> >
> > You wanted examples of how you and Darrel's conversation became "uncivil" (I
> > stated personal but whatever) so here we go. With one of your last posts you
> > stated numerous quotations of Darrel's so I feel no need to repeat those.
> > Here are some others though.
> >
> > -"I might sound a little offended since you did in fact offend me." Dec 5
> >
> > This comment should speak for itself.
> >
> > -"I spent 4 hours today finding data that should convince you that your
> > accusation might be false and has no basis in terms of recent posts on
> > the V. If you think it has a basis, spend a little time to back it up.
> > Or admit that you really don't know what you're talking about and that
> > your opinion is based on hearsay from your conservative friends and
> > nothing more. This is a harmful accusation that leads folks to dismiss
> > the V for no reason. So far there is no evidence that you are doing
> > more than spreading vicious rumors against your political opponents.
> > If you're not, back your comments up and admit they have no basis." Dec 4
> >
> > Implies that Darrel has intentions of alternative motives and that all
> > conservative opinions have no backing.
> >
> > -"I have know intention to share insults with you any further, Darrell" Dec
> > 3
> >
> > Again, should speak for itself, implies insults have already been mentioned
> >
> > -"And you don't, Matt? Just press delete and save the lectures for your
> > kids." Dec 1
> > Should this be construed as an attempt of silence?
> >
> > -"Liberals are liberals, you're
> > either for global warming or against it, and conservative Christians hate
> > Muslims." Dec 1
> >
> > Hmm I'm Christian and have conservative beliefs. I don't hate muslims. Just
> > another smug ignorant comment.
> >
> > -"Spell check, Roger. You have it, use it." Nov 29
> >
> > I wonder if you would say this comment to Tom or Keely in that tone.
> >
> > -"Long story short: if you'd stop telling me what I can or cannot freely
> > talk about on the V, I'd be happy to leave you out of it altogether.
> > On the other hand, if you are going to get in my face, I'm going to
> > get back in yours. That's just how we roll in Jersey. Sorry you got
> > the news a bit late!"
> >
> > wow.
> >
> > There are more examples but I'm done with this. Also, I will further spare
> > the fine people of the Viz of our adolescent conversation.
> >
> >
> > My offer of a cup of coffee or a brew still stands.
> >
> > Happy B day
> >
> > Matt
> >
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> >
> >> Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2010 05:31:12 -0800
> >> From: philosopher.joe at gmail.com
> >> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> >> Subject: [Vision2020] The Vision 2020 Mission Statement
> >>
> >> Tomorrow is my birthday and as a birthday present to Darrell and
> >> everyone else, I've decided to make this my last post on the topic.
> >> Time off for good behavior, so to speak.
> >>
> >> Suppose I asked Dan or Matt or Darrell to destroy all of their guns
> >> and to stop buying new ones. What would they do? Likely they would
> >> laugh. So maybe that's the approach I'll take to Darrell or Matt the
> >> next time they'll try to prevent me from exercising my right to free
> >> speech: I'll stop talking about what I want, when you destroy all of
> >> your guns and promise never to buy another one!
> >>
> >> On Dec 1 00:17:15 Darrell wrote: “Here is our Mission Statement.
> >> Perhaps it should be posted periodically, so that people might read
> >> it. It is one of the reasons
> >> I initially signed on to V2020.” After posting it, he wrote: “Does
> >> this much focus on one topic help us to achieve our mission? I submit
> >> that it does not.”
> >>
> >> I’ve already dealt with the suggestion that V2020 focuses too much
> >> attention on Christ Church and NSA. Based on recent findings, we do
> >> not. This is just a myth that folks from the right like to spread. But
> >> is there anything contrary to discussing this issue in the Mission
> >> Statement? Here it is, as quoted from Darrell’s post.
> >>
> >> Vision 2020 Mission Statement Adopted March 1995:
> >>
> >> 1. To ensure that all parts of our community have an opportunity to
> >> take part in visualizing and planning for the community's future.
> >>
> >> 2. To strengthen citizens' sense of community by promoting awareness,
> >> ownership and investment in Moscow's future.
> >>
> >> 3. To foster cooperation among (and public involvement with) the
> >> agencies and organizations that plan for and make decisions about the
> >> future of Moscow and Latah County.
> >>
> >> 4. To raise awareness on the part of citizens and public officials that:
> >> a. uncontrolled and unplanned growth may have negative effects.
> >> b. short-term decisions have long-term consequences.
> >>
> >> 5. To inform ourselves about growth and development issues.
> >>
> >> 6. To have fun thinking critically and creatively.
> >>
> >> Keep in mind that NO posts meet all of these criteria, so that can’t
> >> be the basis of satisfying the Mission Statement. A better idea is
> >> that posts must meet at least one of the criteria. I have fun thinking
> >> critically and creatively about Christ Church and NSA. Sure that is
> >> not everyone’s idea of fun but it is my idea of fun, so I’m going to
> >> keep doing it!
> >>
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