[Vision2020] Security Contract

[Wayne Price]

Saundra,

What really amazed me was that the recent  press quotes from the  
University President implies that it was the City of Moscow that  
didn't want the "security" part of the contract.

Has anyone got a reading on this from the city?  I'm pretty sure that  
with another 300 to 400k tossed into the contract, the City could have  
sent up some sort of adaptation
that would have met the Universities needs. So, if what Dr. Nellis  
alleges is true, why did the city  not try to be a bit more creative  
for an additional 300 - 400k?




On Aug 18, 2010, at 10:05 AM, Saundra Lund wrote:

> Wayne, it’s even crazier:  my understanding (from experts in the  
> field) is that hiring AlliedBarton is sheer fiscal  
> irresponsibility.  Why?  Because if the UI is concerned about the  
> alcohol related deaths and injuries at the frat houses, those frat  
> houses are on private property, so the AB guards won’t be able to  
> stick a toe onto that private property without invitation, something  
> that’s apparently common knowledge in the nation’s higher ed  
> community of security & safety professionals.  This is why  
> historically private security companies like AlliedBarton are  
> relegated to “property protection” roles and staffing desks at  
> university-owned housing to check who goes in & out of university- 
> owned property.
>
> I suppose if each property owner negotiated with AB to provide  
> services, the story would be different.  What do you think the odds  
> are that’s going to happen???
>
> Now, if anyone has information to the contrary, please share because  
> while the experts I’ve spoken with are very familiar with safety &  
> security issues on college campuses, they don’t have knowledge about  
> the UI specifically.  Does the UI own the frat & sorority houses  
> around campus or are they the property of the nationals?
>
>
>
> Saundra Lund
> Moscow, ID
>
> The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people  
> to do nothing.
> ~ Edmund Burke
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> From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com 
> ] On Behalf Of Art Deco
> Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 9:34 AM
> To: Vision 2020
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Security Contract
>
> Here's part of what I don't understand about the UI security issue:   
> If this was an open bid process, what was left to negotiate/discuss,  
> let alone negotiate/discuss in secret?  Shouldn't the bid terms have  
> clearly spelled everything out?  If not, then the bid process needs  
> to be done again, correctly (which excludes Lloyd Mues).
>
> I fail to see how unarmed security personnel are going to help with  
> the alcohol problem which allegedly is part of the motivation.   
> These unfortunate pseudocops are very likely to end up being great  
> objects of ridicule and pranking especially if they to concentrate  
> on the Greek community as has been alleged.  [That's what has  
> happened elsewhere.]
>
> The alcohol problem has many facets including the need for an  
> intelligent (perhaps too much to expect now from the present UI  
> personnel concerned) and very persistent, deep reaching education  
> and prevention program.  More enforcement is clearly needed.  Why  
> not leave that further enforcement to the professionals, the MPD,  
> with a little help with closer communication, and not with a  
> security firm [AlliedBarton] which simple Googling shows are much  
> less than stellar in performance and integrity.
>
>
> Wayne A. Fox
> 1009 Karen Lane
> PO Box 9421
> Moscow, ID  83843
>
> waf at moscow.com
> 208 882-7975
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