[Vision2020] Facebook; The death of Vision 2020?
Sue Hovey
suehovey at moscow.com
Sun Aug 15 13:07:46 PDT 2010
I, too, have a Facebook page and I almost never go on it. I should, I know, but it's just easier for me to get my email and read what I want to and delete what I don't. I do realize Donovan is certainly correct in his conjecture that younger folks may well find the Viz antiquated and want something new. I actually have some sense of that feeling, as my husband won't even consider email so I'm always having to print things he might want to read, and as they are printing, I'm thinking, "Damnit, Norman if you would move just a tiny bit into the 20th Century...nevermind the 21st."
Sue H
From: keely emerinemix
Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2010 7:44 PM
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Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Facebook; The death of Vision 2020?
I'm on vacation and haven't bothered to read all of the other posts regarding the supposed ease of Facebook over that of Vision 2020, but I have a couple of thoughts:
One, the people at First Step have been remarkably generous in providing the I-don't-know-what-to-call-it technology that enables us to have a "Vision 2020," and no discussion of its future should take place without acknowledging the debt all of us who have been active on this forum owe to First Step. I've made some precious friends on this forum, and quite a few enemies, but I can't imagine my last several years in Moscow without Vision 2020.
Two, I'm one of those dinosaurs who has a Facebook page with nothing on it because it seems like an unnecessarily complicated mode of conversing, and because I prefer, still, to talk one-on-one with people via email. Even the group emails I send, I send to people with whom I'd be sitting around having a beer if they all lived in Moscow. And I realize I'm in the minority here; Facebook certainly has taken off and done quite well without me. I am not at all interested in what I see as the "instant intimacy," or at least the indiscriminate intimacy, of Facebook or MySpace. I'm blessed to have a great many acquaintances, a lot of pals, a few friends, and just a handful of intimates -- those people with whom I discuss, and from whom I hear, things that by their precious nature aren't something I or they want to plaster across a constantly-changing electronic billboard like Facebook. I understand I'm not in the cultural mainstream here, but my Luddite tendencies suit me well.
Three, I think there are others like me who want to continue discussing the things we all discuss on Vision without revealing much more of ourselves than the content of our posts. Maybe I just don't get it -- gee, could it be? -- but I want my participation on Vision 2020 to reveal nothing about me other than what I have to say on a given subject. I don't have the time, energy, or inclination to wade through the "I just ate some yogurt," "OMG, did you see Hell's Kitchen last night?" and "My Favorite 25 Punk Songs" musings of other people, and (except for the 25 punk songs) I can't imagine anyone would want to go through mine -- unless they were close friends, in which case they'd either already know, or they'd get an email, phone call, or letter from me. The advantage of Vision is, to me, its existence as a stand-alone feature/forum that pretty much means "When you're in, you're in for this, nothing else" -- No offers to extend body parts I don't have, no garbage from people who think the supreme expression of my devotion to God is to hit "Send" to 10 other people, and no emails from friends who have no idea what to think about Highway 12 because they live in Virginia. It's Vision 2020, all about Vision 2020, all the time. I like that.
Now I'll read the other posts, or not, and do so knowing that I've confirmed my status as someone as overwhelmed by technology as Doug Wilson would be by a gaggle of ordained women Reformed intellectuals at a conference on female Pentecostal history. Yeah, that bad.
Keely
www.keely-prevailingwinds.com
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Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 10:31:18 -0700
From: donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
To: vision2020 at moscow.com
CC: webmaster at fsr.com; services at fsr.com; techsupport at fsr.com
Subject: [Vision2020] Facebook; The death of Vision 2020?
I believe, that Vision 2020, that hasn't changed its low-tech format since 1994, which is both annoying and unnecessarily inconvenient to use by its subscribers, will be replaced by another Internet company or reputable company or organization that establishes such a forum on Facebook or similar network.
Sure, anyone could establish a Palouse Forum, but people would be more likely to join a forum created by First Step Internet that uses the same name.
Image a Vision 2020 that took only moments to skim through instead of opening and closing each email, or getting one at the end of the day after the conversation is over. You could post links, images, and information much more quickly. And perhaps the best things of all would be that people could not use your name in postings or false names to launch personal attacks against members of the community.
A Facebook account would be more meaningful and helpful to a community that wished to grow and be productive with its online networking. It would also be of better service to facilitate the purpose and mission of Vision 2020.
Vision 2020 will eventually be replaced, the question is how it will be replaced, and by what entity. I hope it is still First Step Internet. But I don't see it making any moves to save Vision 2020 and keep ownership of its own idea of an uncensored soap box forum to facilitate change in the Palouse Community.
Donovan Arnold
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