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<DIV><FONT size=3 face=Calibri>I, too, have a Facebook page and I almost never
go on it. I should, I know, but it's just easier for me to get my email
and read what I want to and delete what I don't. I do realize Donovan is
certainly correct in his conjecture that younger folks may well find the Viz
antiquated and want something new. I actually have some sense of that
feeling, as my husband won't even consider email so I'm always having to print
things he might want to read, and as they are printing, I'm thinking, "Damnit,
Norman if you would move just a tiny bit into the 20th Century...nevermind the
21st."</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3 face=Calibri>Sue H</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=kjajmix1@msn.com
href="mailto:kjajmix1@msn.com">keely emerinemix</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, August 14, 2010 7:44 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com
href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com</A> ; <A
title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> </DIV>
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href="mailto:webmaster@fsr.com">webmaster@fsr.com</A> ; <A
title=services@fsr.com href="mailto:services@fsr.com">services@fsr.com</A> ; <A
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Facebook; The death of Vision
2020?</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>I'm on vacation and haven't bothered to read all of the other
posts regarding the supposed ease of Facebook over that of Vision 2020, but I
have a couple of thoughts:<BR><BR>One, the people at First Step have been
remarkably generous in providing the I-don't-know-what-to-call-it technology
that enables us to have a "Vision 2020," and no discussion of its future should
take place without acknowledging the debt all of us who have been active on this
forum owe to First Step. I've made some precious friends on this
forum, and quite a few enemies, but I can't imagine my last several years in
Moscow without Vision 2020. <BR><BR>Two, I'm one of those dinosaurs who
has a Facebook page with nothing on it because it seems like an unnecessarily
complicated mode of conversing, and because I prefer, still, to talk one-on-one
with people via email. Even the group emails I send, I send to people with
whom I'd be sitting around having a beer if they all lived in Moscow. And
I realize I'm in the minority here; Facebook certainly has taken off and done
quite well without me. I am not at all interested in what I see as the
"instant intimacy," or at least the indiscriminate intimacy, of Facebook or
MySpace. I'm blessed to have a great many acquaintances, a lot of pals, a
few friends, and just a handful of intimates -- those people with whom I
discuss, and from whom I hear, things that by their precious nature aren't
something I or they want to plaster across a constantly-changing electronic
billboard like Facebook. I understand I'm not in the cultural mainstream
here, but my Luddite tendencies suit me well.<BR><BR>Three, I think there are
others like me who want to continue discussing the things we all discuss on
Vision without revealing much more of ourselves than the content of our
posts. Maybe I just don't get it -- gee, could it be? -- but I want my
participation on Vision 2020 to reveal nothing about me other than what I have
to say on a given subject. I don't have the time, energy, or inclination
to wade through the "I just ate some yogurt," "OMG, did you see Hell's Kitchen
last night?" and "My Favorite 25 Punk Songs" musings of other people, and
(except for the 25 punk songs) I can't imagine anyone would want to go through
mine -- unless they were close friends, in which case they'd either already
know, or they'd get an email, phone call, or letter from me. The advantage
of Vision is, to me, its existence as a stand-alone feature/forum that pretty
much means "When you're in, you're in for this, nothing else" -- No
offers to extend body parts I don't have, no garbage from people who think the
supreme expression of my devotion to God is to hit "Send" to 10 other people,
and no emails from friends who have no idea what to think about Highway 12
because they live in Virginia. It's Vision 2020, all about Vision 2020,
all the time. I like that.<BR><BR>Now I'll read the other posts, or not,
and do so knowing that I've confirmed my status as someone as overwhelmed by
technology as Doug Wilson would be by a gaggle of ordained women Reformed
intellectuals at a conference on female Pentecostal history. Yeah, that
bad.<BR><BR><FONT color=#8064a2><FONT style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt" size=3><FONT
face=Verdana>Keely<BR>www.keely-prevailingwinds.com<BR></FONT></FONT></FONT><BR><BR><BR><BR>
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Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 10:31:18 -0700<BR>From:
donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com<BR>To: vision2020@moscow.com<BR>CC:
webmaster@fsr.com; services@fsr.com; techsupport@fsr.com<BR>Subject:
[Vision2020] Facebook; The death of Vision 2020?<BR><BR>
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<DIV>I believe, that Vision 2020, that hasn't changed its low-tech
format since 1994, which is both annoying and unnecessarily
inconvenient to use by its subscribers, will be replaced by another
Internet company or reputable company or organization that establishes
such a forum on Facebook or similar network. </DIV>
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<DIV>Sure, anyone could establish a Palouse Forum, but people would be
more likely to join a forum created by First Step Internet that uses
the same name. </DIV>
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<DIV>Image a Vision 2020 that took only moments to skim through instead of
opening and closing each email, or getting one at the end of the day after
the conversation is over. You could post links, images, and
information much more quickly. And perhaps the best things of all would be
that people could not use your name in postings or false names to launch
personal attacks against members of the community. </DIV>
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<DIV>A Facebook account would be more meaningful and helpful to a
community that wished to grow and be productive with its online
networking. It would also be of better service to facilitate the
purpose and mission of Vision 2020. </DIV>
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<DIV>Vision 2020 will eventually be replaced, the question is how it
will be replaced, and by what entity. I hope it is still First Step
Internet. But I don't see it making any moves to save Vision 2020 and keep
ownership of its own idea of an uncensored soap box forum to
facilitate change in the Palouse Community. </DIV>
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