[Vision2020] Facebook; The death of Vision 2020?
Paul Rumelhart
godshatter at yahoo.com
Sat Aug 14 13:07:55 PDT 2010
Donovan,
I think your point about the possible problems with missing the
technological boat is a good one. Facebook, unfortunately, is the wrong
tool for the job. Facebook is for socializing and connecting, and
doesn't have facilities for this sort of thing. Someone could make a
Vision2020 facebook group, but it would lack the cohesion that it does
as a mailing list.
I would rather see it moved to a bulletin board or internet forum type
of software, if we feel the need to update it at all. I think it's been
working well as a mailing list, but it would be nice to have an area we
can go to that would have uploaded images, files, a calendar, etc that
the mailing list does not have without a lot of manual work searching
emails. If anyone has ever used Yahoo Groups, that's the kind of model
I'm talking about. You could still get the emails as a list, but there
would be a place to find stuff that the community has uploaded and have
an easier time looking for archived emails.
While we're on the subject, I would like to thank the people at First
Step for taking care of the list administration for us.
Paul
Donovan Arnold wrote:
> Mr. London,
>
> I believe that it is important that Vision 2020 be updated to 21st
> century technology, or it will be replaced. I believe First Step would
> be the best company to do that, not me.
>
> I would think people that want Vision 2020 to survive and attract new
> people from future generations would support modifying it to meet
> current demands.
>
> Dial up Internet and rotary phones were great when they first came
> out, but people do lose patience with slow outdated technology when
> living in the modern era. I am sure if I was retired, had the time, I
> would not mind opening every single email posted on V2020 via dial up,
> but I work and go to school, so spending 2 or 3 hours everyday on
> email is not an option for me, and many others anymore. You will
> continue to see a decline in the number of active members of V 2020
> and an increase in the average age of active members until they
> change, or go the way of MySpace. I am 36 years old, and probably one
> of the youngest active members on this board by a decade or two.
>
> Donovan Arnold
>
>
>
> --- On *Sat, 8/14/10, Bill London /<london at moscow.com>/* wrote:
>
>
> From: Bill London <london at moscow.com>
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Facebook; The death of Vision 2020?
> To: "Donovan Arnold" <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>,
> vision2020 at moscow.com
> Cc: webmaster at fsr.com, services at fsr.com, techsupport at fsr.com
> Date: Saturday, August 14, 2010, 11:39 AM
>
> Donovan Arnold:
> First Step does not "own" Vision 2020.
> V2020 is a public service that First Step has generously
> offered to host at no charge to support community communication.
> Other than controlling technical issues, First Step does not
> direct or manage Vision 2020. First Step is certainly not making
> any money from Vision 2020.
> If you believe it is important to create a Facebook forum, go
> for it. I have no interest in joining Facebook and opening a new
> stream of data into my overdosed brain, but go ahead without me.
> I will stay back here, reading my V2020 emails as long as
> First Step is willing to keep them coming
> BL
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Donovan Arnold
> <http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com>
>
> *To:* vision2020 at moscow.com
> <http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vision2020@moscow.com>
>
> *Cc:* webmaster at fsr.com
> <http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=webmaster@fsr.com>
> ; services at fsr.com
> <http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=services@fsr.com>
> ; techsupport at fsr.com
> <http://us.mc381.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=techsupport@fsr.com>
>
> *Sent:* Saturday, August 14, 2010 10:31 AM
> *Subject:* [Vision2020] Facebook; The death of Vision 2020?
>
> I believe, that Vision 2020, that hasn't changed its low-tech
> format since 1994, which is both annoying and unnecessarily
> inconvenient to use by its subscribers, will be replaced by
> another Internet company or reputable company or organization
> that establishes such a forum on Facebook or similar network.
>
> Sure, anyone could establish a Palouse Forum, but people would
> be more likely to join a forum created by First Step
> Internet that uses the same name.
>
> Image a Vision 2020 that took only moments to skim through
> instead of opening and closing each email, or getting one at
> the end of the day after the conversation is over. You could
> post links, images, and information much more quickly. And
> perhaps the best things of all would be that people could not
> use your name in postings or false names to launch personal
> attacks against members of the community.
>
> A Facebook account would be more meaningful and helpful to a
> community that wished to grow and be productive with its
> online networking. It would also be of better service to
> facilitate the purpose and mission of Vision 2020.
>
> Vision 2020 will eventually be replaced, the question is how
> it will be replaced, and by what entity. I hope it is still
> First Step Internet. But I don't see it making any moves to
> save Vision 2020 and keep ownership of its own idea of an
> uncensored soap box forum to facilitate change in the Palouse
> Community.
>
> Donovan Arnold
>
>
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