[Vision2020] Raise Our Taxes

[lfalen]

Amen to that.
Roger
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From: "Saundra Lund" v2020 at ssl.fastmail.fm
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 11:53:41 -0700
To: "'Tom Hansen'" thansen at moscow.com, "'Mo Hendrickson'" hend5953 at vandals.uidaho.edu
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Raise Our Taxes

> I dunno, Tom, but perhaps at least one of them would have some ethics and
> not be a liar . . . I'd be willing to pay *more* for that!
> 
> I don't know about all three of those named, but I know for a fact that one
> has absolutely no qualms about telling lies when he thinks he can get away
> with it.  And for that he's very handsomely compensated with very little in
> the way of job qualifications -- it was one of Tim White's last F-yous to
> the UI.  No wonder this country has gone to heck in a hand basket -- we've
> become a society where we think paying big bucks buys top quality when
> that's just not the case, as we've seen at the UI time & time again.  When
> will we learn???
> 
> I just don't get why people think we should continue to handsomely reward
> dishonest & unethical university administrators . . . .
> 
> 
> 
> Saundra Lund
> Moscow, ID
> 
> The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do
> nothing.
> ~ Edmund Burke
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
> On Behalf Of Tom Hansen
> Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 11:34 AM
> To: Mo Hendrickson
> Cc: Moscow Vision 2020
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Raise Our Taxes
> 
> Very well stated, Mo.
> 
> Instead of throwing rocks only to retreat and crawl back under one, how
> about some constructive support?
> 
> Do you really think, Roger (?), that those hired to replace Baker, Mues,
> and Daly-Laursen would be willing to accept those duties at a rate less
> than their current positions?
> 
> Tom Hansen
> Moscow, Idaho
> UI '96
> 
> "The Pessimist complains about the wind, the Optimist expects it to change
> and the Realist adjusts his sails."
> 
> - Unknown
> 
> >
> > "This is provided that they first cut out the fat at the top. At the UI
> > that means Baker, Mues and Daly-Laursen. "
> >
> > So Roger, you would cut these three people. SO you get rid of them, do you
> > think the university could function without a VP of Finance and a Provost?
> >  Do you know what the expense is for running executive searches? Two of
> > the three positions would be refilled, probably at a higher salary line,
> > due to market salary increases.  Yes I think that administrators make a
> > lot more than anyone should get paid, but at the same time that is the way
> > the system is set up.  It is not unique to UI.   So your idea to save
> > money would probably end up costing the university MORE money.
> >
> > I know that you have ties to the College of Ag, and yes they are in a
> > particularly tough place financially.  But the whole of the UI is hurting.
> > Your ideas seem to have a trend towards take from somewhere else and fix
> > Ag, well when you take from somewhere that has nothing you end up hurting
> > that department or college. Offices across campus are one deep, everyone
> > is doing more and not getting paid for the extra duties.  It is time to be
> > creative about how to raise monies, to recruit students, and create a
> > sustainable working environment. That will not happen if we are all so
> > focused on our own special interest.
> >
> > I think there are some folks on this list with such animosity towards UI
> > that they refuse to see any good and only find the negative.  From where I
> > sit, there are wonderful, fabulous, and amazing things happening at this
> > university at ALL levels top to bottom, that some folks just don't see.
> > Yes money is tight and things suck in a lot of departments and colleges,
> > try and find some positive in all of this.  Living in the negative is a
> > miserable way to live. But hey that's your choice.
> >
> > -Mo
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