[Vision2020] Dan Noble released on $250K bond; May 5 hearing set

[lfalen]

Thanks Saundra
I could not agree more.
Roger
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From: "Saundra Lund" v2020 at ssl.fastmail.fm
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 01:31:12 -0700
To: "'Art Deco'" deco at moscow.com,  "'Vision 2020'" vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Dan Noble released on $250K bond; May 5 hearing set

> No offense, but I think perhaps folks should have an idea of what the h*ll they’re talking about before they go spouting off.
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> My understanding is that Dan Noble, as a result of his commitment to Eastern, has been diagnosed with bipolar disorder.  From the reporting, this was apparently a new diagnosis for him.
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> For those who aren’t aware, severe undiagnosed and/or untreated bipolar disorder can result in actual psychosis as well as a plethora of lesser symptoms.  Absent a diagnosis – which was apparently the case at the time of Dan’s crimes – well-meaning people desperately searching for an explanation could well “think” something like excessive caffeine might be an explanation for behavior that was completely out of character.
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> That understandable attempt to explain the unexplainable should be left in the past when more current information is available.
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> To me, there are at least a couple of noteworthy comments to make about this tragic situation.
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> One:  someone in Whitman County commits two hit-and-runs where the victims, thank God, sustain non-life-threatening injuries.  He’s committed, diagnosed with bipolar disorder, and spends about 5 months incarcerated before being anticipated to post $250,000 bail.
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> In Latah County, another man kills his pregnant wife, lies for months about it, eventually goes to jail, and gets out – just in time for Christmas – with just $200,000 bail.  The piece of sh*t eventually quasi-confesses to his dastardly deeds, and he still gets to remain foot-loose and fancy-free until his sentencing nearly a year after snuffing the life out of his pregnant wife.
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> Two:  a longstanding judge in Whitman County seems totally ignorant about bipolar disorder.  I’m hesitant to comment too much on this aspect because I’m not overly familiar with the judge, but to demand assurances that someone with bipolar disorder will never again suffer from mania?!?!  Would that such an assurance was even possible!  With even the most compliant patients and the absolute best medication management, such an assurance is impossible, much as it is that cancer survivors will never, ever again suffer a recurrence.
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> I can’t, however, help but wonder if the judge demands the same certainty from the repeat DUI offenders – or from the child abusers and domestic violence offenders -- that regularly appear before him.  From looking at public records, it appears not.  If I lived in Whitman County, I’d be demanding answers about why those with mental illness are held to a higher standard than criminals – with genuine free choice -- without bone fide medical conditions.
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> And, third:  in addition to sending my best wishes to Dan’s victims, I also send my best wishes  -- along with my encouragement -- to Dan Noble and his loved ones.  Mental illness isn’t anything one would willingly “opt in.”  Treatment and control can be a long and frustrating process, but successful management is most often possible with bipolar disorder.  There may be some bumps along the way, but please don’t give up, and please know there are many in the community willing to support your efforts and sending you best wishes.
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> Sincerely,
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> ***** Original material contained herein is Copyright 2010 through life plus 70 years, Saundra Lund.  Do not copy, forward, excerpt, or reproduce outside the Vision 2020 forum without the express written permission of the author.*****
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> From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] On Behalf Of Art Deco
> Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 11:35 AM
> To: Vision 2020
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Dan Noble released on $250K bond; May 5 hearing set
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> Surprisingly, Googling "caffeine-induced psychosis" results in finding some interesting material, not all of it consistent, not all of it credible.
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> However, less us not forget ala Aristotle:  When a crime is committed after first putting oneself into a state of ignorance (poor judgment), then two crimes have been committed, the first being putting oneself into a state of ignorance (poor judgment).
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> I think this is good advice for judges looking at a defense attorney's claims that being drunk, then committing a crime, for example, is a mitigating circumstance.  It's not.  It's a exacerbating circumstance.  The choice to get drunk was made knowing what possible consequences there are of being in that state.
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> It's hard to believe that any educated person would not know in this day and age that excessive doses of caffeine do affect one's judgment.
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> This will be an interesting case to follow.
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
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> From: Kenneth Marcy <mailto:kmmos1 at verizon.net>  
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> To: vision2020 at moscow.com 
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> Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 4:58 AM
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> Subject: [Vision2020] Dan Noble released on $250K bond; May 5 hearing set
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> Driver accused of hitting 2 at WSU to post bond 
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> A Moscow, Idaho man accused of injuring two Washington State 
> University students in a December hit-and-run is expected to be 
> released from jail on a $250,000 bond.
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> The Associated Press
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> A Moscow, Idaho man accused of injuring two Washington State 
> University students in a December hit-and-run is expected to be 
> released from jail on a $250,000 bond.
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> Daniel Noble has pleaded not guilty to two felony counts of vehicular 
> assault, two felony counts of hit and run and misdemeanor resisting 
> arrest.
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> The Lewiston Tribune reports Superior Court Judge David Frazier agreed 
> Friday to release Noble on bond and set a May 5 hearing to consider a 
> motion from the defense that seeks acquittal of the charges.
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> Doctors at Eastern Washington State Hospital last month declared the 
> 31-year-old fit to stand trial.
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> Noble's attorney, Mark Moorer, has previously told the court his 
> client was suffering from caffeine-induced psychosis brought on by 
> too much coffee and energy drinks.
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> http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2011571304_apidwsupedestrianshit.html 
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