[Vision2020] Local Media Celebrity

[Tom Hansen]

I considered creating some sort of entertainment presentation to the Viz,
subsequent to the completion of these debates (for lack of a more
appropriate term), however copyrights (and human decency) prevents it.

Suffice it to say:

"Mamas, don't let your babies grow up to be . . . "

Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho




>
> Naw, I wasn't expecting a mutually respectful debate on the screen.  I
> meant a mutually respectful discussion among those of us in the audience
> afterward.  I'm familiar with Chris Hitchens' work and his persona as a
> conservative, boozy intellectual/writer given to throwing rhetorical
> bombs.   That's his charm.  It sounds like the film might be entertaining
> and fodder for good discussion, though.
>
>
>
> I enjoyed the Newsweek religion editor's take on it ... but I expect that
> I will feel compelled to watch the movie anyway.
> http://www.newsweek.com/id/219009
>
>
>
> - Selina
>
>> Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 07:59:43 -0700
>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Local Media Celebrity
>> From: thansen at moscow.com
>> To: philosopher.joe at gmail.com
>> CC: selinadavis at hotmail.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
>>
>> I simply write this whole debate thing off as some kind of theological
>> soap opera, Joe.
>>
>> Holy Rapture, Batman!
>>
>> Tom Hansen
>> Moscow, Idaho
>>
>> > Mutally respectful discussion from Hitchens and Wilson? You haven't
>> > really followed the debate, have you. Hitchens thinks that
>> > fundamentalists like Wilson are dangerous idiots. He also thinks that
>> > ALL Christians are fundamentalists. Thus, religion in general is
>> > nothing more than dangerous idiocy.
>> >
>> > Wilson, of course, thinks that Christianity allows for slavery -- that
>> > some slavery is permissable -- and has written -- well, at least wrote
>> > part of since the original work was partly ripped if from a
>> > discredited academic source -- a revisionist history of American
>> > slavery, where it turns out that the best race relations in the
>> > country happened when we kept blacks in chains!
>> >
>> > This is not an academic debate -- they have exactly one MA between
>> > them. This is a circus, where difficult issues about religion are
>> > glossed over in favor of insulting generalizations. Of course, this
>> > kind of crap has always sold well!
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPhone
>> >
>> > On Oct 26, 2009, at 10:10 PM, Selina Davis <selinadavis at hotmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> And here's the link to info about the movie:
>> >> http://www.collisionmovie.com/
>> >> and a link to Pastor Wilson with Chris Hitchens for an hour on the
>> >> nationally-syndicated Laura Ingraham Show today (haven't listened to
>> >> it yet):
>> http://right-mind.us/blogs/blog_0/archive/2009/10/23/70483.aspx
>> >>
>> >> It's always intriguing when someone around here gains a degree of
>> >> notoriety beyond our region. Can we anticipate a showing and
>> >> spirited (yet hopefully mutually respectful) discussion at the Nuart
>> >> and/or Kenworthy sometime soon?
>> >>
>> >> - Selina
>> >>
>> >> Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 15:41:30 -0700
>> >> From: rforce2003 at yahoo.com
>> >> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>> >> Subject: [Vision2020] Local Media Celebrity
>> >>
>> >> fighting words
>> >> Faith No More
>> >> What I've learned from debating religious people around the world.
>> >> By Christopher Hitchens
>> >> Posted Monday, Oct. 26, 2009, at 11:21 AM ET
>> >>
>> >> This week sees the opening on various cinema marquees of the film
>> >> Collision: a buddy-and-road movie featuring last year's debates
>> >> between Pastor Douglas Wilson, who is a senior fellow at New St.
>> >> Andrew's College, and your humble servant. (If I may be forgiven,
>> >> it's also available on DVD, and you can buy our little book of
>> >> exchanges, Is Christianity Good for the World?)
>> >>
>> >> Newsweek's reviewer beseeches you not to go and see the film,
>> >> largely on the grounds that it features two middle-aged white men
>> >> trying to establish which one is the dominant male. I would have
>> >> thought that this would be reason enough to buy a ticket, but
>> >> perhaps she would have preferred the debate held in London last week
>> >> featuring me and Stephen Fry (two magnificent specimens of white
>> >> mammalhood) versus a female member of Parliament who is a Tory
>> >> Catholic convert and the Roman Catholic archbishop of Abuja,
>> >> Nigeria. It filled one of the largest halls in the city, and many
>> >> people had to be turned away. For a combination of reasons, the
>> >> subject of religion is back where it always ought to be—at the very
>> >> center of any argument about the clash of world views.
>> >>
>> >> Continues at: http://www.slate.com/id/2233586/
>> >>
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>> "The Pessimist complains about the wind, the Optimist expects it to
>> change
>> and the Realist adjusts his sails."
>>
>> - Unknown
>>
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