[Vision2020] MPD Press Release
Sunil Ramalingam
sunilramalingam at hotmail.com
Fri Oct 30 06:36:54 PDT 2009
Joe and Tom,
It was clear to me that Matt was not saying that 'Might makes Right,' or that he wanted to speed through town with disregard for the rights of bike riders. I don't see that in what he wrote. I do see him asking for the law to be applied to drivers and bike riders.
What he did express, and I share it with him, is frustration for bike riders who at best ride like boneheads, if not sphincters. I still ride my bike some of the time, and I lived for years in Davis, CA, where I rode everywhere for years. And I don't ride down the middle of a one-way street expecting cars and trucks to get out of my way. I don't ride on a sidewalk if there are pedestrians on it, and I sure don't ride on a sidewalk and dart into traffic without making eye contact with the drivers heading towards me.
Vehicle size DOES matter. That semi is not going to stop in time if I zip in front of it. Inertia is going to trump everything else, and a healthy sense of self-preservation ought to be front and center in each bike rider's mind when on the road.
Sunil
From: philosopher.joe at gmail.com
To: mattd2107 at hotmail.com
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 04:01:37 -0700
CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] MPD Press Release
Is your politcal philosophy 'might makes right'? You make it seem as if all that matters is the size of the vehical.
Look, you live in a town where a lot of folks ride bikes. Get over it, slow down, and observe all traffic laws.
When you come to a crosswalk slow down since it is possible that some dumb kid might come darting in front of your BIG vehical. Likely he didn't read your warning and although he'll be dead you'll have to live with your own carelessness for the rest of your life. And when his parents sue you, your previous post is not going to look so good in court.
Slow down; yeild to those with right of way. Not too much to ask!
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On Oct 29, 2009, at 10:39 PM, Matt Decker <mattd2107 at hotmail.com> wrote:
Does this impede the abilty to navigate the bike, such as down the wrong way of the middle of the one way street. Kind of like what I had to break hard with my truck and trailer today.
To all bikers.....................
I do not understand why it is such a hard concept to understand a vehicle is a big moving object. One that can cause really bad damage to the body if contact was made. I, and believe most drivers try to be observant to the surroundings but accidents do happen. With the sue happy society we have, I dread the idea of a biker breaking the law but I happen to get nailed with the citation.
I just ask that all bikers, pedestrians, and drivers use their heads as well as live to the law and common sense.
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 22:21:14 -0700
From: rforce2003 at yahoo.com
To: mattd2107 at hotmail.com; deco at moscow.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] MPD Press Release
You should signal if you can, but sometimes you're leaning on the brakes or holding on for dear life (usually, in my case).
(4) A signal of intention to turn right or left shall be given during not
less than the last one hundred (100) feet traveled by the bicycle before
turning, provided that a signal by hand and arm need not be given if the hand
is needed in the control or operation of the bicycle.
http://www3.state.id.us/cgi-bin/newidst?sctid=490070020.K
Ron Force
Moscow ID USA
From: Matt Decker <mattd2107 at hotmail.com>
To: deco at moscow.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
Sent: Wed, October 28, 2009 7:47:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] MPD Press Release
Just counted four bikers not use turn signals today. Two more swirve from sidewalk to other sidewalk and one more blow through a stoplight today. That was just my usual 30 minute time downtown/campus.
So my question to you, why not ticket those infractions as well as the usual driver ones too? What is so wrong with biker safety?
MD
From: deco at moscow.com
To: vision2020 at moscow.com
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 10:02:41 -0700
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] MPD Press Release
Bicyclists and pedestrians are the enemy.
Motorized vehicles are our friends.
Therefore,
The MPD doesn't give a rat's ass about vehicle infractions except DUIs , especially if they are not committed by white trash or other minorities.
W.
----- Original Message -----
From: Joe Campbell
To: Stephanie Kalasz
Cc: v2020
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 5:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] MPD Press Release
Why have I not seen one reminder yet of the responsibilities of the driver? Just the other day I saw a police car drive through a crosswalk while people were walking in it. How many citations were written for this offense, I wonder?
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 27, 2009, at 4:34 PM, "Stephanie Kalasz" <skalasz at ci.moscow.id.us> wrote:
MOSCOW POLICE DEPARTMENT
118 East 4th Street
Moscow, Idaho 83843
Tel: 208-882-COPS Fax: 208-882-4020
PRESS RELEASE
Moscow Police Department Officers are focusing efforts on increasing public awareness related to bicycle safety.
In an effort to increase public awareness and reduce the number of vehicle/bicycle collisions, M.P.D. Officers will be focusing their efforts on violations pertaining to the following traffic codes:
-Idaho Code: 49-720
When approaching a stop sign, on a roadway, bicycles must slow to a reasonable speed and yield to vehicles in the intersection and vehicles approaching the intersection; so close as to constitute an immediate hazard. Even though bicycles are not required to come to a complete stop at stop signs, if they are on the roadway, they are not excused from yielding and proceeding, only after waiting their appropriate turn. Their turn to proceed is assigned the same as that of other vehicles on the roadway.
-Idaho Code: 49-720
A bicycle, operated on the roadway, must stop when approaching a red traffic signal. The Bicyclist may then proceed as if the red light is a stop sign. The bicyclist must yield the right of way to all vehicles operating on the roadway with the applicable green or yellow light.
-Idaho Code: 49-702, 49-714
Bicycles operated on the roadway have the same responsibilities as motor vehicles to use appropriate lanes, appropriate speed, direction of travel, to not impede traffic, and yield or stop if need be for pedestrians in crosswalks. Bicycles are not permitted to pass vehicles on the right and bicyclists are required to use due caution.
-Idaho Code: 49-721
Bicycles must yield to foot traffic when on sidewalks.
-Idaho Code: 49-803
Pedestrians and bicycles leaving sidewalks must obey pedestrian control signals. It is unlawful to begin crossing the roadway when a signal shows a solid or flashing “Don’t Walk”.
-Idaho Code: 49-704
It is unlawful for pedestrians to cross roadways diagonally or between adjacent intersections where traffic signals are in operation.
DANIEL L. WEAVER Prepared by:
Chief of Police Officer Bruce Lovell
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