[Vision2020] More Evangelical Christians are Getting It

Objective Reason objectivereason at gmail.com
Mon Oct 19 17:22:52 PDT 2009

Evangelical Christians are getting it?  There is nothing for Christians to
get in that area.  The Bible is explicitly clear concerning homosexuality.
I Cor. 6:9-10 "Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the
kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor
idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves,
nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the
kingdom of God."

I Tim. 1:9-11 "understanding this, that the law is not laid down for the
just but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and sinners, for
the unholy and profane, for those who strike their fathers and mothers, for
murderers, the sexually immoral, men who practice homosexuality,
enslavers, liars, perjurers, and whatever else is contrary
to sound doctrine, in accordance with the gospel of the glory of the blessed
God with which I have been entrusted."

These verses are pretty self-explanatory (whether you agree with them or
not).  So Christians that are beginning to accept homosexuality are going
against their own faith.  I'm sure you would say that people are entitled to
believe whatever they want, and while you obviously don't agree with
Christianity very much, it should be pointed out that those "Christians" in
the gay parades are the ones not getting it.  Christians should treat them
just like murderers, enslavers, liars etc.  Christians preach against it,
pray for them, and minister to them, just like murderers etc.  No bigotry
here.  But that's obviously not how you see it.

Art- You sure draw a lot of conclusions and create a lot of conspiracy
theories by not attending the conference or visiting the churches you

On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 9:35 AM, Saundra Lund <v2020 at ssl.fastmail.fm> wrote:

> In spite of Christ Church's gross perversion last week (the "Sexual
> Orthodoxy" ministerial conference), it heartens me to continue to come
> across more and more Evangelical Christians who really are getting it.
> A Step in Faith
> Evangelical Christian Brent Childers explains his journey from believing
> that homosexuality was an abomination to marching in a pro-gay march on
> Washington.
> http://www.newsweek.com/id/216910
> "There are many, many others I have met in my work with Faith in America,
> as
> we try to bring awareness and understanding to the pain and trauma caused
> to
> LGBT people, especially youth, when church teaching is misused to justify
> and promote a societal climate of rejection, condemnation, and
> discrimination. . . Every person coming to Washington-whether they are
> religious or not-does share one faith, and that is faith in America. We can
> and must do better. As the progress of history has shown, Americans will
> prove themselves able to see beyond religion-based bigotry to the promises
> of equal treatment for all. Those who use religion-based bigotry to
> persecute and discriminate against LGBT people are on the wrong side of
> history, just as they were with slavery, interracial marriage, the
> treatment
> of women, and so many other issues."
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