[Vision2020] NYTimes: Limbaugh Dropped From Bid to Buy Rams

[Joe Campbell]

These are very good points but I think it is important to realize that  
initial criticisms came from players, many of whom were personally  
offended by previous, public comments made by Rush about the league  
("Crips vs. Bloods") and players in particular (Donovan McNab).

Free speech protects the content of your remarks, as long as it isn't  
slander or libel. It does not protect style. It protects the  
expression of ideas, not the way in which you express them. Someone  
who deliberately insults people for political gain is not being  
treated unfairly if it turns out that some of the very people he  
insults want nothing to do with him.

If you could tell me one IDEA that Limbaugh was punished for  
expressing, you might have a point. But I don't see it.

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On Oct 15, 2009, at 8:21 AM, "Art Deco" <deco at moscow.com> wrote:

> While I don't believe hardly anything that Limbaugh says, and  
> certainly don't agree with his values, I am afraid that this  
> development represents a true loss of and a threat to freedom of  
> speech/expression.
>
> The way to fight crackpots is to try to show where they are in  
> error, and to boycott their services and products, not, in effect,  
> to ban them from offering ideas, services, and/or products.
>
> The NFL, NBA, NHL NCAA, etc are full of examples where freedom of  
> expression is suppressed or penalized -- celebration penalties,  
> disallowal of public comment by players, coaches, of putrid  
> officiating, for example.  I think these are really chickenshit  
> rules, and that they certain represent a trend of denying those  
> affected by acts from commenting upon them.  Very unhealthy in the  
> long run.
>
> The loss of freedom of expression that is very maddening and  
> counterproductive is the sealing of court cases, especially cases  
> where one of the parties is a public entity -- all criminal and all  
> civil cases where a public entity is a party.  As a taxpayer, I want  
> to know what goes on in the court and how a particular settlement/ 
> outcome is going to affect me and society as a whole, and how much a  
> particular settlement is going to cost.  If you haven't observed  
> courts much, you'd be surprised at the amount of perjury that  
> occurs, even by law enforcement officers, the laxity and ineptitude  
> of some prosecutors, the laziness and lack of conscientiousness of  
> some judges, and the outrageousness of some plea bargains in  
> criminal cases and settlements in civil cases.
>
>
> W.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Joe Campbell
> To: vision2020
> Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 7:03 AM
> Subject: [Vision2020] NYTimes: Limbaugh Dropped From Bid to Buy Rams
>
> From The New York Times:
>
> Limbaugh Dropped From Bid to Buy Rams
>
> In the face of fierce opposition, Dave Checketts said his group would
> move on without the conservative radio talk-show host.
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/15/sports/football/15limbaugh.html
>
> Get The New York Times on your iPhone for free by visiting http://itunes.com/apps/nytimes
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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