[Vision2020] The new The Saga Continues...

keely emerinemix kjajmix1 at msn.com
Wed Nov 18 09:22:21 PST 2009


And, of course, there's the verb "to bitch," which means complaining to your friends of either gender about the inconvenience of having to have sex-less snow tires put on your equally sex-less car by Les Schwab attendants both male and female who work hard but nonetheless have six hours of cars ahead of you -- six hours of work on cars driven by women and men who are also complaining to their guy and gal friends about the wait.  Synonyms here might be "whine, moan, and gripe," and not one of them describes only female behavior.

So while the noun and the adjective originally referred negatively to women, I guess the verb form hearkens back to the days when men perceived that even the mildest, most tepid complaint from their women was mere confirmation that, darn it all, they needed to be watched out for.  

Particularly if it was "that time of the month."  You know how we get . . . 

Keely
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From: suehovey at moscow.com
To: kjajmix1 at msn.com; deco at moscow.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The new The Saga Continues...
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 08:32:04 -0800










So we do....There is, perhaps, a perceived 
distinction between "bitchy" and "bitch," though.  One is a noun, the other 
an adjective and by inference less pejorative. And I don't tally by gender so 
what you say may be true in my world, too.
 
Sue H
 
 
 
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  From: 
  keely emerinemix 
  
  To: deco at moscow.com ; vision2020 at moscow.com 
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  PM
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  Saga Continues...
  
We do live in different worlds . . . 

Keely
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  From: deco at moscow.com
To: vision2020 at moscow.com
Date: Tue, 17 
  Nov 2009 17:43:06 -0800
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The new The Saga 
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  We must live in two different worlds.  In mine "bitchy" means 
  childishly petulant.  In my world women use the term much more than men, 
  and use it unisexually.
   
  W.
  
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I'm with Gary on this one (sorry, Gary).  "Bitchy" and 
    forms thereof may be something leveled at a guy, like "Hey, dude, just stop 
    bitchin' about it!"  But at its core, and as the etymology confirms, 
    it's the denigrating of a woman by likening her to a she-dog.  When 
    McCain staffers called Hillary Clinton a bitch, the offense wasn't that they 
    were mean to her; they could just as easily have said she was "an arrogant 
    a--hole" or something equally snotty.  But "bitch" is the pejorative 
    you need when you want to cut a woman down or put her in her place, and even 
    its recent androgynous use -- along the lines of "Hey, car bitch!  Go 
    get my Corvette!" for the parking valet -- is meant to demean the object as 
    someone worthy of dismissal and denigration.

And women know 
    "dismissal" and "denigration" all too well . . . 

Keely
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    From: deco at moscow.com
To: vision2020 at moscow.com
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 
    14:02:27 -0800
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The new The Saga 
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    I am unaware that calling anyone, man or woman, "bitchy" 
    is sexist, but a matter of fact in the context of "arms 
akimbo."
     
    Perhaps, you need to stop looking at the world through 
    keyholes.
     
    W.
    
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      I think she looks.....fine. 
       
      What's amusing is a remark that denies 
      the out of context use of the photo as sexist followed by comment that 
      includes the term "bitchy." 
       
      g
      
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        Perhaps I missed something, but where does it say it 
        was used without permission.  I do not have access to the contract 
        between Runner's World and Ms. Palin, but in my experience such 
        photo shoot contracts give total control of the material created to the 
        payer for the photo shoot.  Perhaps you have other 
        information.
         
        In any case, Palin did give permission for the photo 
        to be used by Runner's World.  I hardly think the 
        photo sexist, but with her arms akimbo, she does look a little 
        bitchy.
         
        W.
        
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          Considering the text on that cover and 
          the fact that the photo was taken for an article to appear in Runners 
          World magazine and used without permission one sort of has to wonder 
          how this rag justifies calling itself "Newsweek." Perhaps Left Wing 
          Opinionweak would be more appropriate. Considering their dwindling 
          circulation, I suppose it hardly matters.
           
          g
          
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            Let's see.  Didn't she 
            pose for the photo at issue for distribution in a magazine, or was 
            that some egregious impostor?
             
             
            Palin slams 'sexist' Newsweek cover
            Posted: November 17th, 2009 12:06 PM 
            ET
            
>From CNN Ticker Producer Alexander Mooney

            
             
            
            Palin is not happy with the latest 
            Newsweek cover.
            (CNN) - Sarah Palin's 
            image is everywhere as she launches a highly-anticipated book tour 
            this week, but the former Alaska governor is unhappy with at least 
            one media organization's depiction of her.
Palin took aim at 
            Newsweek's eye-catching cover this week that shows the former vice 
            presidential candidate in her running outfit - an image that was apparently lifted from a 
            Runner's World photo shoot months ago.  Writing on 
            her Facebook page Monday night, Palin said the 
            depiction is flat out "sexist, and oh-so-expected."
"The choice 
            of photo for the cover of this week's Newsweek is unfortunate. When 
            it comes to Sarah Palin, this 'news' magazine has relished focusing 
            on the irrelevant rather than the relevant," Palin wrote. "The 
            out-of-context Newsweek approach is sexist, and oh-so-expected by 
            now."
"If anyone can learn anything from it: it shows why you 
            shouldn't judge a book by its cover, gender, or color of skin. The 
            media will do anything to draw attention – even if out of context," 
            Palin also said.
The photo is accompanied by text that states 
            "How Do You Solve A Problem Like Sarah? She's bad news for the GOP - 
            and for everybody else too."
Palin has held back few punches at 
            the media in the initial stages of her publicity tour.  The 
            former governor slammed 
            the Associated Press for its recent fact check that 
            took issue with several of the memoir's contentions and, in 
            her Oprah appearance that aired Monday, Palin slammed 
            the way the media treated her family during the campaign.
The 
            Alaska Republican also doesn't hold back in her book, writing at one 
            point, "I had been out of journalism for a long time, and it was 
            pretty obvious the rules had changed. I felt sick about the depths 
            to which some in the press had apparently sunk, not because it was 
            unfair to me and John, but because it was unfair to the American 
            electorate."

             
             
             

            
            
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