[Vision2020] The new The Saga Continues...
Sue Hovey
suehovey at moscow.com
Wed Nov 18 08:32:04 PST 2009
So we do....There is, perhaps, a perceived distinction between "bitchy" and "bitch," though. One is a noun, the other an adjective and by inference less pejorative. And I don't tally by gender so what you say may be true in my world, too.
Sue H
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From: keely emerinemix
To: deco at moscow.com ; vision2020 at moscow.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 9:18 PM
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We do live in different worlds . . .
Keely
www.keely-prevailingwinds.com
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From: deco at moscow.com
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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:43:06 -0800
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We must live in two different worlds. In mine "bitchy" means childishly petulant. In my world women use the term much more than men, and use it unisexually.
W.
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From: keely emerinemix
To: deco at moscow.com ; vision2020 at moscow.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 5:09 PM
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I'm with Gary on this one (sorry, Gary). "Bitchy" and forms thereof may be something leveled at a guy, like "Hey, dude, just stop bitchin' about it!" But at its core, and as the etymology confirms, it's the denigrating of a woman by likening her to a she-dog. When McCain staffers called Hillary Clinton a bitch, the offense wasn't that they were mean to her; they could just as easily have said she was "an arrogant a--hole" or something equally snotty. But "bitch" is the pejorative you need when you want to cut a woman down or put her in her place, and even its recent androgynous use -- along the lines of "Hey, car bitch! Go get my Corvette!" for the parking valet -- is meant to demean the object as someone worthy of dismissal and denigration.
And women know "dismissal" and "denigration" all too well . . .
Keely
www.keely-prevailingwinds.com
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From: deco at moscow.com
To: vision2020 at moscow.com
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 14:02:27 -0800
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The new The Saga Continues...
I am unaware that calling anyone, man or woman, "bitchy" is sexist, but a matter of fact in the context of "arms akimbo."
Perhaps, you need to stop looking at the world through keyholes.
W.
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From: the lockshop
To: Art Deco ; Vision 2020
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 12:40 PM
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I think she looks.....fine.
What's amusing is a remark that denies the out of context use of the photo as sexist followed by comment that includes the term "bitchy."
g
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From: Art Deco
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Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 12:07 PM
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Perhaps I missed something, but where does it say it was used without permission. I do not have access to the contract between Runner's World and Ms. Palin, but in my experience such photo shoot contracts give total control of the material created to the payer for the photo shoot. Perhaps you have other information.
In any case, Palin did give permission for the photo to be used by Runner's World. I hardly think the photo sexist, but with her arms akimbo, she does look a little bitchy.
W.
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From: the lockshop
To: Art Deco ; Vision 2020
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 11:40 AM
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Considering the text on that cover and the fact that the photo was taken for an article to appear in Runners World magazine and used without permission one sort of has to wonder how this rag justifies calling itself "Newsweek." Perhaps Left Wing Opinionweak would be more appropriate. Considering their dwindling circulation, I suppose it hardly matters.
g
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From: Art Deco
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Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 9:42 AM
Subject: [Vision2020] The new The Saga Continues...
Let's see. Didn't she pose for the photo at issue for distribution in a magazine, or was that some egregious impostor?
Palin slams 'sexist' Newsweek cover
Posted: November 17th, 2009 12:06 PM ET
From CNN Ticker Producer Alexander Mooney
Palin is not happy with the latest Newsweek cover.
(CNN) - Sarah Palin's image is everywhere as she launches a highly-anticipated book tour this week, but the former Alaska governor is unhappy with at least one media organization's depiction of her.
Palin took aim at Newsweek's eye-catching cover this week that shows the former vice presidential candidate in her running outfit - an image that was apparently lifted from a Runner's World photo shoot months ago. Writing on her Facebook page Monday night, Palin said the depiction is flat out "sexist, and oh-so-expected."
"The choice of photo for the cover of this week's Newsweek is unfortunate. When it comes to Sarah Palin, this 'news' magazine has relished focusing on the irrelevant rather than the relevant," Palin wrote. "The out-of-context Newsweek approach is sexist, and oh-so-expected by now."
"If anyone can learn anything from it: it shows why you shouldn't judge a book by its cover, gender, or color of skin. The media will do anything to draw attention – even if out of context," Palin also said.
The photo is accompanied by text that states "How Do You Solve A Problem Like Sarah? She's bad news for the GOP - and for everybody else too."
Palin has held back few punches at the media in the initial stages of her publicity tour. The former governor slammed the Associated Press for its recent fact check that took issue with several of the memoir's contentions and, in her Oprah appearance that aired Monday, Palin slammed the way the media treated her family during the campaign.
The Alaska Republican also doesn't hold back in her book, writing at one point, "I had been out of journalism for a long time, and it was pretty obvious the rules had changed. I felt sick about the depths to which some in the press had apparently sunk, not because it was unfair to me and John, but because it was unfair to the American electorate."
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