[Vision2020] Just Curious

Mon Nov 2 21:43:40 PST 2009

There is no doubt that Greg Kimberling did not email John Weber.  He says so.  That was not the issue I raised.

My questions concerned about how the letter allegedly written by John Weber got to Kimberling:

"Since, Kimberling writes in his second email that he has never communicated with John Weber via email, but then says apparently contradictorily:  "John wrote back his response and I thought it might be appropriate to post it on the website."  A look at the first email below shows it is not a forwarded email, but originated with Kimberling.

>From whence, from whom, and how did the response allegedly by Weber get to Kimberling?  Who really wrote the response attributed to John Weber? "

It appears that it is you that needs to make an adjustment, perhaps in the care that you take to read the issue I raised.

W.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Darrell Keim 
  To: Art Deco 
  Cc: Vision 2020 
  Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 6:14 PM
  Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Just Curious

  Wayne:

  I suggest that you need to adjust the tinfoil in your hat.  It seems
  to be a bit tight.

  The answer lies in the 2nd email you quote from Greg: I simply made
  contact with John through his sister and asked what the deal was.

  I'll bet Greg didn't email John.  He probably used the "contact us"
  section on the Weber web page.  I also notified the Weber campaign of
  the website problems via "contact us".  I got the same email that Greg
  did, in fact both of our addresses were on it.  Greg had already
  forwarded it to this list, so I took no further action.  Incidentally,
  I did not get my reply directly from John Weber.  I received it from a
  third party (probably the person in charge of his website, which is, I
  think, his sister).

  I would like to take this time to say:  It looks like we have two well
  qualified candidates for mayor.  Both represent very different visions
  for Moscow.  I encourage all v2020 to get out and vote for the
  candidate that best represents their vision for our little burg.  Good
  luck to both candidates!

  On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 6:13 PM, Art Deco <deco at moscow.com> wrote:
  > To those that may wonder too:
  >
  > Below are copies of two emails from Greg Kimberling.
  >
  > The first contains a letter allegedly written by John Weber in response to
  > questions raised on V2020 (and elsewhere) about the truth of certain
  > statements then on Weber's campaign website.
  >
  > The second is a response by Greg Kimberling to the question: "Does Weber
  > use email?"
  >
  > Since, Kimberling writes in his second email that he has never communicated
  > with John Weber via email, but then says apparently contradictorily: "John
  > wrote back his response and I thought it might be appropriate to post it on
  > the website." A look at the first email below shows it is not a forwarded
  > email, but originated with Kimberling.
  >
  > From whence, from whom, and how did the response allegedly by Weber get to
  > Kimberling? Who really wrote the response attributed to John Weber?
  >
  > Perhaps someone can help this curious, but befuddled old codger by answering
  > these two questions.
  >
  > Further, I am curious because over the last few months, I emailed Weber many
  > times. I have never received a response from him. But on almost all emails
  > sent, I received an error message which basically said my email was
  > undeliverable because his box was full. When I mentioned this to several
  > city staff, part of the responses received was that Weber did not use email
  > since he did not know how. Hence my questions above about the origin and
  > initial transmission of his retraction of previous claims.
  >
  > I agree with the earlier statement of Tom Trail. Email is a very important
  > and crucial tool for any public official when listening to and when
  > responding to public concerns. Representative Trail is always quick to
  > respond to my email queries and concerns, and his responses are germane.
  >
  > I'd be grateful for any help anyone can give [on list] to relieve my
  > befuddlement on this issue.
  >
  > Wayne A. Fox
  > 1009 Karen Lane
  > PO Box 9421
  > Moscow, ID 83843
  >
  > waf at moscow.com
  > 208 882-7975
  >
  >
  > ----- Original Message -----
  > From: Greg Kimberling
  > To: 'Paul Rumelhart' ; 'Wayne Price' ; 'Darrell Keim'
  > Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
  > Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 12:32 PM
  > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Question Concerning John Weber
  > Here is a response from John Weber:
  >
  > To Vision 2020 readers and participants; I regret the error on my
  > Weber-Mayor.com web page.
  >
  > I have never been Moscow's Police Chief nor have I ever been the attorney
  > for the City of Moscow. However I have been on the search committees that
  > helped fill these positions in the past.
  >
  > I would like to thank the Moscow citizens that caught this mistake and
  > gave me the opportunity to correct it, both on Vision 2020 and my web page.
  >
  > If anyone would like to discuss this with me further, please contact me
  > at 208.882.6794.
  >
  > John Weber
  >
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  >
  > ----- Original Message -----
  > From: Greg Kimberling
  > To: 'Bill London' ; vision2020 at secure.fsr.com
  > Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 3:35 PM
  > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Does Weber use email?
  >
  > Bill, Cathy and others:
  >
  > I appreciate your notes. My response on Vision 2020 was a practical issue.
  > The discussion was based upon a number of items posted on his campaign
  > website about his experience and or qualifications. Instead of debating the
  > issue about facts I was unsure about I simply made contact with John through
  > his sister and asked what the deal was. John wrote back his response and I
  > thought it might be appropriate to post it on the website. It seemed like a
  > very logical step to take regardless of whether you support one candidate or
  > the other.
  >
  > I have never communicated with John through email so I cannot answer your
  > question regarding an email address for him. I have always called him up or
  > met with him face to face. I do not represent his campaign or the committee
  > assisting him so I would suggest you contact him directly with the phone
  > number he gave out – 882-6794
  >
  > Best Wishes,
  >
  > Greg Kimberling
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