[Vision2020] Just Curious

[Joe Campbell]

Thanks, Darell! Good answers. Sorry for being in your face but I'm a  
bit hot.

It should be noted that the worst of our state senator's sins -- and  
there are at least three -- is that the quote is out of context. If  
you read the full text of the letter, she is very consistent. Nancy  
had nothing to hide.

The full letter should gave been referenced and our citizens should  
have been given the chance to decide for themselves, with as much  
information as possible. Both our state senator and the Daily News  
failed miserably in this regard.

Best, Joe

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 2, 2009, at 7:52 PM, Darrell Keim <keim153 at gmail.com> wrote:

> The only thing you should have confidence in is human nature, Joe.
> Politics covers all aspects of it:  both honorable and dishonorable.
> As does local, state and federal gov't.  As a philosopher I'd think
> you would be very well qualified to know that.
>
> As it happens, I've read the memo you reference, and was at the
> Chamber debate where it was first brought up.  I remember the look of
> surprise on Nancy's face when it came up.  I think it is dirty pool to
> use the memo the way it has been misused.  That doesn't mean I am
> surprised by it.  A person in the public eye can never write or do
> anything that they wouldn't want to be on the front page of the paper.
> Additionally, that same person needs to realize that anything to do
> with the media is likely to get distorted.
>
> I am frequently surprised/disappointed with some of the interesting
> local stories (such as this memo, and problems at other local
> institutions that I know of) the DNEWS does not choose to report on.
> A good local investigative reporter could really "go to town."
>
> And, yes, I do stand up against "crap" when I feel I can make a
> difference.  There have been times in my life where I have had to put
> both my money and my reputation on the line because I was unwilling to
> take any more "crap".  In the case of politics I "stand up against
> crap" by exercising my right not to vote for people that I believe are
> full of it.
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com 
> > wrote:
>> I agree. And if some of those joke radicals weren't already in  
>> office, I'd
>> laugh along with you.
>>
>> Tell me, Darell, what confidence should we have in local government  
>> given
>> that an elected official or member of Chaney's staff would leak a  
>> private
>> memo for polical gain? What confidence should I have in state  
>> government
>> knowing a state senator quoted in public yet out of context from  
>> the memo,
>> without citing it or explaining where it came from? And what  
>> confidence
>> should I have in the local media to uncover such bullshit given  
>> that they
>> printed a quote from the sitting mayor without even asking for a  
>> citation?
>>
>> Do you have enough nerve to speak out against this crap, Darell?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Nov 2, 2009, at 6:16 PM, Darrell Keim <keim153 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> In my opinion radicals on both sides come across as a joke.
>>> Polarization and an inability to work together is not the answer to
>>> our problems.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 7:03 PM, Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com 
>>> >
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> This is why the radical right movement is such a joke. They promote
>>>> the view that government is out of touch and corrupt yet their
>>>> candidate for mayor needs a third party to communicate and their  
>>>> state
>>>> senator likes to circumvent the democratic process with last minute
>>>> stunts, like this weekend's letter.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 2, 2009, at 5:26 PM, "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>  
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Bottom line, Wayne . . .
>>>>>
>>>>> If the mayor is not accessible by the people, how is that mayor
>>>>> going to
>>>>> represent those people?
>>>>>
>>>>> Mayor Chaney responds to public email inquiries regularly.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here it is the night before election day and the people of Moscow
>>>>> don't
>>>>> even know if John Weber even checks his email.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why does John Weber respond to the people of Moscow, DURING HIS
>>>>> ELECTION
>>>>> CAMPAIGN, through a third party (Greg Kimberling)?
>>>>>
>>>>> If John Weber is elected mayor, will Greg Kimberling be Mayor  
>>>>> Weber's
>>>>> communication link with the people of Moscow?
>>>>>
>>>>> Seeya at the polls, Moscow.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tom Hansen
>>>>> Moscow, Idaho
>>>>>
>>>>> "The Pessimist complains about the wind, the Optimist expects it  
>>>>> to
>>>>> change
>>>>> and the Realist adjusts his sails."
>>>>>
>>>>> - Unknown
>>>>>
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