[Vision2020] Reverse Racism?

bear at moscow.com bear at moscow.com
Sat May 30 11:27:12 PDT 2009


Ok, I don't see this as an affirmative action issue based on the facts as
set forth in the paper, for what they are worth.

1. Idaho STATE trooper pulls over two people in a vehicle on a
state/county road for a traffic violation.
2. The vehicle at first stops, and then takes off finally stopping on the
reservation.
3. STATE trooper follows.
4. Some sort of altercation starts where in the two people in the vehicle
start to pound the STATE trooper.
5. STATE trooper fires at the two people that are beating him up.
6. One dead and one wounded (the two people from the vehicle)

Have I got that right? Now, because it later turns out that the two
individuals in the vehicle are members of the Nez Perce Tribe, the
allegations are that the STATE trooper was tresspassing when he defended
himself? He was supposed to wait until a member of the tribal police
showed up?

I'm not taking a side on this one way or the other, but  do members of the
tribe really think that the reservation is a home base that they can dash
to and be immune from state law enforcement officers for an action that
started off the reservation?

And there is the issue of the reservation even existing after the war
between the Nez Perce and the United States (1877).  I would argue that
since there was a state of war between the two nations, that all treaties
that were written before that war occured (1855/1863), are null and void,
just like pre-war treaties between the US and Japan and Germany were
voided by their acts/declarations of war.


Comments?








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> According to this definition, any kind of affirmative action would be
> an instance of discrimination and racism. That strikes me as absurd.
>
> Joe Campbell
>
> On May 30, 2009, at 8:10 AM, "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:
>
>> Courtesy of Wikipedia at:
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_racism
>>
>> "Reverse discrimination (sometimes called "reverse racism") is, in its
>> simplest form, the practice of favoring members of a historically
>> disadvantaged group at the expense of members of a historically
>> advantaged
>> group."
>>
>> Tom Hansen
>> Moscow, Idaho
>>
>>
>>>
>>> What is "reverse" racism?
>>>
>>> Ellen A. Roskovich
>>>
>>>> Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 21:02:19 -0700
>>>> From: bear at moscow.com
>>>> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>>>> Subject: [Vision2020] Reverse Racism?
>>>>
>>>> This article appeared on the KLEW website, and I'm printing it
>>>> here with
>>>> a
>>>> question for the Visionaries, is it a case of reverse racism?
>>>>
>>>> LEWISTON - A Nez Perce Tribal elder and paralegal says law
>>>> enforcement
>>>> overstepped its bounds during a shooting on Cottonwood Creek Road
>>>> last
>>>> week.
>>>> Randall Vernon Ellenwood died and Ricardo Daniel Rodriguez was
>>>> injured
>>>> when they were shot by the officer in what is described as a traffic
>>>> stop
>>>> and ensuing physical altercation.
>>>> In a news release issued Tuesday, ISP said their trooper, who
>>>> allegedly
>>>> fired the shots at the men, had jurisdiction on the county road.
>>>> But the owner of the property where the shootings happened, Clifford
>>>> Allen, says when the trooper stepped on Indian-owned land, he was
>>>> nothing
>>>> more than "A mad man with a pistol in his hand."
>>>> "For him to do what he did was absolutely illegal," said Allen.
>>>> "What he
>>>> should have done was stopped down at the highway and waited for his
>>>> backup, which was the Tribal Police."
>>>> Allen said he wasn't home until about 15 minutes after the
>>>> shooting took
>>>> place, and has not seen video of the actual incident. He says that
>>>> video
>>>> may exist though.
>>>> Allen doesn't deny reports that the men fled ISP after a previous
>>>> traffic
>>>> stop, but says the men "sensed a hatred" in the trooper and felt the
>>>> need
>>>> to flee to a "sanctuary" or "safe place."
>>>> "I wasn't home and so they just kind of stopped and did things on
>>>> their
>>>> own," said Allen. "Unfortunately had I been there, they'd probably
>>>> still
>>>> be alive."
>>>> ISP says the officer opened fire after being attacked and
>>>> overpowered by
>>>> the two men. The officer involved has not been identified.
>>>> Allen said Ellenwood was a family friend who went to school with his
>>>> children.
>>>> Allen says he is acting as Rodriguez’ consultant, as the FBI con
>>>> tinues
>>>> its
>>>> investigation.
>>>> Allen said he is meeting with attorneys at the end of the week to
>>>> pursue
>>>> legal action against the state and county officers on his property
>>>> that
>>>> day.
>>>> "We'll have to do something of that sort in order to prove that
>>>> their
>>>> liable by trespass, and if that's the case, they have to pay for
>>>> damages,"
>>>> said Allen.
>>>>
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