[Vision2020] And From Moscow We Have . . .

Wed May 20 11:25:56 PDT 2009

Yes Tom, I saw the humor in your post.  Good oppertunity to open discussion though when some laws do more harm than good.  Warren, you friend should learn that cops are trained to get suspects to self-incriminate on the spot in the course of their investigation, especially in the absence of evidence and prior to marandizing.  Any episode of COPS reveals this. The episode where the crack head reports a theft of her $20 in exchange for sheetrock pieces comes to mind.  The great climax...when the accused seller states "I don't sell drugs, I'm a prostitute!"

Darrell is correct.

I remember hearing of this in criminal investigations class where someone reported their stereo speakers had been stolen from their home and contained several ounces of weed.  

Here's more examples of drugs reported stolen:

http://search.live.com/results.aspx?go=Search&q=calls%20cops%20to%20report%20drugs%20stolen&form=SOLTLB

I believe the professor was a retired cop from Moscow.  We spent a good portion of the class investigating facts from a murder in Moscow that had to do with a mentally challenged restaurant worker and a missing broken hammer with only one claw.  Anyone know of the case?

Don

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> 4. Re: And From Moscow We Have . . . (Warren Hayman)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 09:26:59 -0700 (PDT)
> From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
> Subject: [Vision2020] "Moscow Cares" Website (Update 052009-02)
> To: "Moscow Vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
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> Greetings Visionaires -
> 
> The "Moscow Cares" website has been updated to include videos and related
> committee reports of the following segments of the May 18, 2009 Moscow
> City Council session.
> 
> 1) Public Commentary - Smoking Ban in Public Places
> 
> http://www.MoscowCares.com/051809_PubCom_SmokingBan.htm
> 
> 2) Idaho Gem Grant Application - Industrial Park Master Plan
> (Passed 5-0, 1 absent)
> 
> http://www.MoscowCares.com/051809_04_IdahoGemGrant.htm
> 
> 3) Public Hearing - Proposed Code Amendment Regarding Political Campaign
> Signs, Content Neutrality, and Posting Without Consent
> (Passed 5-0, 1 absent)
> 
> http://www.MoscowCares.com/051809_05_PolCampSigns.htm
> 
> As always, this stuff and other Moscow stuff may be
> accessed/viewed/browsed at . . .
> 
> "Moscow Cares"
> http://www.MoscowCares.com
> 
> Next Moscow City Council session: June 1, 2009
> 
> Seeya round town, Moscow.
> 
> Tom Hansen
> Moscow, Idaho
> 
> "The Pessimist complains about the wind, the Optimist expects it to change
> and the Realist adjusts his sails."
> 
> - Unknown
> 
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 10:30:44 -0700
> From: donald edwards <donaledwards at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] And From Moscow We Have . . .
> To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
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> 
> Hi Tom, this is a glaring example of the need for legal govt. controlled marijuana available through the corner smokeshop. Could have been formaldahyde or PCP? Same things happened from drinking bathtub Gin. No quality control and billions in lost tax revenue.
> 
> 
> 
> >From MSN Money's highest rated & Editor's choice archives. "In the early 1930s, one of the reasons that alcohol was brought back was because government revenue was plummeting," Harvard economist Jeff Miron said. "There are some parallels to that now."
> 
> 
> 
> http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Investing/StockInvestingTrading/a-budget-cure-marijuana-taxes.aspx
> 
> 
> 
> Not quite as bad as trusting a paranoid junkie with no chemistry degree to cook your Meth for you though. They have a one in three chance of not making either poison (in the literal sence) or a trailer bomb.
> 
> 
> 
> Don
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > Message: 5
> > Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 08:32:07 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
> > Subject: [Vision2020] And From Moscow We Have . . .
> > To: "Moscow Vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
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> > Courtesy of the "Public records" section of today's (May 20, 2009)
> > Moscow-Pullman-Daily News.
> > 
> > ---------------
> > 
> > Moscow Police
> > 
> > Tuesday
> > 
> > 2:56 a.m. - A 24-year-old man was transported to Gritman Medical Center
> > for treatment after reporting that he believed he may have smoked
> > something other than marijuana in a cigarette he rolled.
> > 
> > ---------------
> > 
> > Couldn't you just imagine the conversation . . .
> > 
> > "Pardon me, officer. I just rolled a marijuana joint, lit it up, and
> > toked on it a couple times. I think there is more than marijuana in it."
> > 
> > Next week on "World's Dumbest Criminals" . . .
> > 
> > What can I say, but . . .
> > 
> > "Don't Bogart that Joint, My Friend"
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6yMj0JGLWs
> > 
> > Seeya round town, Moscow.
> > 
> > Tom Hansen
> > Moscow, Idaho
> > 
> > "The Pessimist complains about the wind, the Optimist expects it to change
> > and the Realist adjusts his sails."
> > 
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> > 
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> From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] And From Moscow We Have . . .
> To: "donald edwards" <donaledwards at hotmail.com>
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> Although my intent was humor (as the 24-year-old man approached a police
> officer), seriousness should be given to the potential plight of a dealer
> who "laces" his/her stash of cannabis with "substances unknown" for the
> purpose of realizing more sales in these troubled economic times.
> 
> As Don suggests, the best way to control something is to legalize and
> regulate it.
> 
> Thanks, Don.
> 
> Tom Hansen
> Moscow, Idaho
> 
> 
> >
> >
> > Hi Tom, this is a glaring example of the need for legal govt. controlled
> > marijuana available through the corner smokeshop. Could have been
> > formaldahyde or PCP? Same things happened from drinking bathtub Gin. No
> > quality control and billions in lost tax revenue.
> >
> >
> >
> >>From MSN Money's highest rated & Editor's choice archives. "In the early
> >> 1930s, one of the reasons that alcohol was brought back was because
> >> government revenue was plummeting," Harvard economist Jeff Miron said.
> >> "There are some parallels to that now."
> >
> >
> >
> > http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Investing/StockInvestingTrading/a-budget-cure-marijuana-taxes.aspx
> >
> >
> >
> > Not quite as bad as trusting a paranoid junkie with no chemistry degree to
> > cook your Meth for you though. They have a one in three chance of not
> > making either poison (in the literal sence) or a trailer bomb.
> >
> >
> >
> > Don
> >
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 10:55:32 -0700
> From: "Warren Hayman" <whayman at roadrunner.com>
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] And From Moscow We Have . . .
> To: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>, "donald edwards"
> <donaledwards at hotmail.com>
> Cc: Moscow Vision 2020 <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Message-ID: <CF433C4CEB0649658A35150CB4A81048 at Homeboy>
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> reply-type=original
> 
> Not long ago someone told me that he has hated police ever since he was 
> pulled over a few years ago. When asked if he had been drinking, he said no, 
> that he smoked a joint about an hour before. He was astonished and 
> infuriated when arrested.
> 
> Warren Hayman
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
> To: "donald edwards" <donaledwards at hotmail.com>
> Cc: "Moscow Vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 10:41 AM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] And From Moscow We Have . . .
> 
> 
> > Although my intent was humor (as the 24-year-old man approached a police
> > officer), seriousness should be given to the potential plight of a dealer
> > who "laces" his/her stash of cannabis with "substances unknown" for the
> > purpose of realizing more sales in these troubled economic times.
> >
> > As Don suggests, the best way to control something is to legalize and
> > regulate it.
> >
> > Thanks, Don.
> >
> > Tom Hansen
> > Moscow, Idaho
> >
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi Tom, this is a glaring example of the need for legal govt. controlled
> >> marijuana available through the corner smokeshop. Could have been
> >> formaldahyde or PCP? Same things happened from drinking bathtub Gin. No
> >> quality control and billions in lost tax revenue.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>From MSN Money's highest rated & Editor's choice archives. "In the early
> >>> 1930s, one of the reasons that alcohol was brought back was because
> >>> government revenue was plummeting," Harvard economist Jeff Miron said.
> >>> "There are some parallels to that now."
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Investing/StockInvestingTrading/a-budget-cure-marijuana-taxes.aspx
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Not quite as bad as trusting a paranoid junkie with no chemistry degree 
> >> to
> >> cook your Meth for you though. They have a one in three chance of not
> >> making either poison (in the literal sence) or a trailer bomb.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Don
> >>
> >
> > =======================================================
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> > serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.
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> 
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 11:07:36 -0700
> From: Ted Moffett <starbliss at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Vision2020] NOAA Scientists: World?s Large Marine Ecosystems
> Heating Up
> To: Moscow Vision 2020 <vision2020 at moscow.com>
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> http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2009/20090520_ecosystems.html
> 
> ?The large majority of these ecosystems are shared by two or more countries,
> underscoring the need for regional cooperation to advance sustainable
> management,? said Dr. Kenneth Sherman, director of the NOAA Large Marine
> Ecosystem program <http://www.lme.noaa.gov/>. ?The added stress of
> increasing sea surface temperatures makes it that much more important that
> nations cooperate to sustainably manage large marine ecosystems, the areas
> where most marine fisheries are produced and caught.?
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> From: Darrell Keim <keim153 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] And From Moscow We Have . . .
> To: Warren Hayman <whayman at roadrunner.com>, "vision2020 at moscow.com"
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> His hate is missplaced. The police are doing their job as dictated by
> our laws.
> 
> On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Warren Hayman <whayman at roadrunner.com> wrote:
> > Not long ago someone told me that he has hated police ever since he was
> > pulled over a few years ago. When asked if he had been drinking, he said no,
> > that he smoked a joint about an hour before. He was astonished and
> > infuriated when arrested.
> >
> > Warren Hayman
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
> > To: "donald edwards" <donaledwards at hotmail.com>
> > Cc: "Moscow Vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 10:41 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] And From Moscow We Have . . .
> >
> >
> >> Although my intent was humor (as the 24-year-old man approached a police
> >> officer), seriousness should be given to the potential plight of a dealer
> >> who "laces" his/her stash of cannabis with "substances unknown" for the
> >> purpose of realizing more sales in these troubled economic times.
> >>
> >> As Don suggests, the best way to control something is to legalize and
> >> regulate it.
> >>
> >> Thanks, Don.
> >>
> >> Tom Hansen
> >> Moscow, Idaho
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Hi Tom, this is a glaring example of the need for legal govt. controlled
> >>> marijuana available through the corner smokeshop. ?Could have been
> >>> formaldahyde or PCP? ?Same things happened from drinking bathtub Gin. ?No
> >>> quality control and billions in lost tax revenue.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>From MSN Money's highest rated & Editor's choice archives. ?"In the early
> >>>> 1930s, one of the reasons that alcohol was brought back was because
> >>>> government revenue was plummeting," Harvard economist Jeff Miron said.
> >>>> "There are some parallels to that now."
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Investing/StockInvestingTrading/a-budget-cure-marijuana-taxes.aspx
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Not quite as bad as trusting a paranoid junkie with no chemistry degree
> >>> to
> >>> cook your Meth for you though. ?They have a one in three chance of not
> >>> making either poison (in the literal sence) or a trailer bomb.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Don
> >>>
> >>
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> >> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.
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> >
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