[Vision2020] love letters or a desperate cry for attention?

Joe Campbell philosopher.joe at gmail.com
Fri May 1 09:27:34 PDT 2009


Why not post all the quotes?

Joe Campbell

On May 1, 2009, at 6:14 AM, "g. crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com> wrote:

> Cognitive problem confirmed! The last example in my list was taken  
> directly from your little handout and included specifically for your  
> pleasure.
>
> g
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Joe Campbell
> To: g. crabtree
> Cc: Gray Tree Crab aka Big Bertha ; <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 6:06 AM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] love letters or a desperate cry for  
> attention?
>
> You left the racist headlines out, even though I gave you a handout!
>
> Joe Campbell
>
> On May 1, 2009, at 6:00 AM, "g. crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com>  
> wrote:
>
>> Whose memory needs a tune up?
>>
>> A very small sample from the November '08 archive. Topics which any  
>> reasonable person would have to agree were timely, contained  
>> information that was pertinent to the discussion, and were not ad  
>> hominem attacks on any member of this forum.
>>
>>
>> [Vision2020] Murdoch says Obama win could worsen financial crisis:  
>> report   No Weatherman
>> [Vision2020] Obama's New Attack on Those Who Don't Want Higher  
>> Taxes: ‘Selfishness’   No Weatherman
>> [Vision2020] Obama aunt from Kenya living in US illegally   No  
>> Weatherman
>> [Vision2020] Obama says he didn't know aunt's illegal status — and 
>>  he still has not proven his own “natural born citizen” status    
>> No Weatherman
>> [Vision2020] $800,000 to ACORN — $700,000 for stage props: CHANGE  
>> YOU CAN BELIEVE IN   No Weatherman
>> [Vision2020] Has Obama Overplayed the Race Card?   No Weatherman
>> [Vision2020] Obama's Hug-a-Thug Crime Policy   No Weatherman
>> [Vision2020] crowd boos Obama   No Weatherman
>> [Vision2020] Everything You Wanted to Know About the Obama Online  
>> Fundraising Scandal in Less Than 5 Minutes!   No Weatherman
>> [Vision2020] Obama’s homies (Black Panthers) intimidating whites a 
>> t the polls   No Weatherman
>>
>> Perhaps you could check with "bear." He apparently knows some brain  
>> mechanics in Spokane who could help you with your selective memory.
>>
>> g
>> From: Joe Campbell
>> To: g. crabtree
>> Cc: Gray Tree Crab aka Big Bertha ; <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 7:49 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] love letters or a desperate cry for  
>> attention?
>>
>> Yipes your memory is bad. You should get that checked!
>>
>> Joe Campbell
>>
>> On Apr 30, 2009, at 5:26 PM, "g. crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com>  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> My recollection is that at that time we were discussing OBL (at  
>>> that time still BHO) and the upcoming election. Weather guy was  
>>> providing, among other things, selected items of interest from a  
>>> variety of sources, many of which you seemed to find uncomfortable  
>>> but which were very much on topic. I'm not sure what "ad hominems"  
>>> you might be referring to but if there's anything I've learned  
>>> over the years on this list it's that you've precious little  
>>> aversion to sacrificing accuracy for expediency and that you often  
>>> mistake a view point you disagree with for an attack.
>>>
>>> g
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Joe Campbell
>>> To: g. crabtree
>>> Cc: Gray Tree Crab aka Big Bertha ; <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 7:25 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] love letters or a desperate cry for  
>>> attention?
>>>
>>> Right! I asked the same question when your friend was harrassing  
>>> the V! Of course, at the time you seemed to think Dr. No's ad  
>>> hominems were legit!
>>>
>>> Joe Campbell
>>>
>>> On Apr 30, 2009, at 5:59 AM, "g. crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com>  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> So why don't you explain for us the argument that matters in the  
>>>> post in question? That said, I still believe that the sad and  
>>>> lonely Bertha has the right to do what she does. Eventually  
>>>> she'll meet someone nice and her obsession with me will wayne.
>>>>
>>>> g
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: Joe Campbell
>>>> To: g. crabtree
>>>> Cc: Gray Tree Crab aka Big Bertha ; <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 9:57 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] love letters or a desperate cry for  
>>>> attention?
>>>>
>>>> Gary: Do you forget your defence of No Whetherman (hah, hah)? I  
>>>> think it was, Names don't matter, arguments do!
>>>>
>>>> Joe Campbell
>>>>
>>>> On Apr 29, 2009, at 5:46 PM, "g. crabtree"  
>>>> <jampot at roadrunner.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> My Dearest Bertha,
>>>>>
>>>>> I get that you aren't interested in contributing to the  
>>>>> discussion.
>>>>>
>>>>> I get that you are not swayed by my suave good looks and worldly  
>>>>> charm.
>>>>>
>>>>> I get that my powerful intellect and rapier wit bounce off you  
>>>>> seemingly unnoticed.
>>>>>
>>>>> In fact, I am coming to believe that you imagine you don't  
>>>>> really care for me at all. (wink, wink)
>>>>>
>>>>> All of these things I can understand.
>>>>>
>>>>> What I can't understand is why you                  are  
>>>>> frightened of me.
>>>>>
>>>>> The waifish Ms. Lund delights in spitting in my eye.
>>>>>
>>>>> The diminutive Ms. Mix gleefully reads me the riot act.
>>>>>
>>>>> The delicate Ms. Hovey never hesitates to point out my failings  
>>>>> as she sees them.
>>>>>
>>>>> And all of them do it over their very own real life names.
>>>>>
>>>>> What could I have done to scare you into hiding?
>>>>>
>>>>> Many of my most vocal critics on this forum have actually spoken  
>>>>> with me face to face and emerged none the worse for wear.
>>>>>
>>>>> What could I have done to cause you to cower so?
>>>>>
>>>>> What horror could I have inflicted on you that leaves you with  
>>>>> no recourse but to hurl pitifully weak epithets from the safe  
>>>>> harbor of                  anonymity?
>>>>>
>>>>> Or could it be that you                  simply yearn to be  
>>>>> noticed?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> g
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: Gray Tree Crab aka Big Bertha
>>>>> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 7:17 AM
>>>>> Subject: [Vision2020] Habeas Corpus at Bagram
>>>>>
>>>>> The village locksmith said:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "My goodness isn't the nascent little ambulance chaser cute when  
>>>>> he gets all up on his hind legs and brays about how others  
>>>>> should be ashamed?
>>>>>
>>>>> The reason that I don't "defend torture" is because that  I see  
>>>>> no compelling need to. As I've said before, I do not believe  
>>>>> that waterboarding is torture, I do not believe that the  
>>>>> previous administration had a policy promoting the use of  
>>>>> torture, and  I don't think that your pretending to be the  
>>>>> arbiter of all that is righteous, pure and holy necessitates my  
>>>>> responding to every idle quack and query that's directed my way.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now how's about you knock it off with the phony shame routine  
>>>>> and save it for closing arguments in kiddy court alright?"
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Before anyone criticizes the lonely locksmith over this only  
>>>>> apparently puerile outburst, they need to understand the  
>>>>> pressure he is under.
>>>>>
>>>>> His business is so busy that he is constantly on edge.  In fact,  
>>>>> it is so busy that he may have to expand into the next door  
>>>>> laundromat.  As one of the area's leading entrepreneurs and  
>>>>> entrepreneurial philosophers, he is to be cheered for his daring  
>>>>> and incisive business acumen in these hard times.
>>>>>
>>>>> He is our leader.  Cut him some slack if he seems irrational and  
>>>>> childish.  He is going where few dare to go.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Gray Tree Crab aka "Big Bertha"
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