<html><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Why not post all the quotes?</div><div><br>Joe Campbell</div><div><br>On May 1, 2009, at 6:14 AM, "g. crabtree" <<a href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com">jampot@roadrunner.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div><span></span></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
<div><font face="Arial">Cognitive problem confirmed! The last example in my
list was taken directly from your little handout and included specifically for
your pleasure.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial">g</font></div>
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<div style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </div>
<div style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><b>From:</b>
<a title="philosopher.joe@gmail.com" href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com">Joe
Campbell</a> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title="jampot@roadrunner.com" href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com">g. crabtree</a> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Cc:</b> <a title="gray.treecrab.aka.big.bertha@gmail.com" href="mailto:gray.treecrab.aka.big.bertha@gmail.com">Gray Tree Crab aka Big
Bertha</a> ; <a title="vision2020@moscow.com" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com>"><<a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a>></a> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 01, 2009 6:06 AM</div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] love letters or
a desperate cry for attention?</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>You left the racist headlines out, even though I gave you a
handout! </div>
<div><br>Joe Campbell</div>
<div><br>On May 1, 2009, at 6:00 AM, "g. crabtree" <<a href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com"><a href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com">jampot@roadrunner.com</a></a>>
wrote:<br><br></div>
<div><span></span></div>
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<div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Whose memory needs a tune up? </font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">A very small sample from the November '08
archive. Topics which any reasonable person would have to agree were timely,
contained information that was pertinent to the discussion, and were
not ad hominem attacks on any member of this forum.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div>
<li><a href="http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2008-November/058771.html">[Vision2020]
Murdoch says Obama win could worsen financial crisis: report </a><a name="58771"> </a> <i>No Weatherman </i>
</li><li><a href="http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2008-November/058772.html">[Vision2020]
Obama's New Attack on Those Who Don't Want Higher Taxes: ‘Selfishness’
</a><a name="58772"> </a> <i>No Weatherman </i>
</li><li><a href="http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2008-November/058773.html">[Vision2020]
Obama aunt from Kenya living in US illegally </a><a name="58773"> </a>
<i>No Weatherman </i>
</li><li><a href="http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2008-November/058777.html">[Vision2020]
Obama says he didn't know aunt's illegal status — and he still has not
proven his own “natural born citizen” status </a><a name="58777"> </a>
<i>No Weatherman </i>
</li><li><a href="http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2008-November/058778.html">[Vision2020]
$800,000 to ACORN — $700,000 for stage props: CHANGE YOU CAN BELIEVE IN
</a><a name="58778"> </a> <i>No Weatherman </i>
</li><li><a href="http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2008-November/058839.html">[Vision2020]
Has Obama Overplayed the Race Card? </a><a name="58839"> </a> <i>No
Weatherman </i>
</li><li><a href="http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2008-November/058878.html">[Vision2020]
Obama's Hug-a-Thug Crime Policy </a><a name="58878"> </a> <i>No
Weatherman </i>
</li><li><a href="http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2008-November/058929.html">[Vision2020]
crowd boos Obama </a><a name="58929"> </a> <i>No Weatherman </i>
</li><li><a href="http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2008-November/058962.html">[Vision2020]
Everything You Wanted to Know About the Obama Online Fundraising Scandal in
Less Than 5 Minutes! </a><a name="58962"> </a> <i>No Weatherman </i>
</li><li><a href="http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2008-November/059012.html">[Vision2020]
Obama’s homies (Black Panthers) intimidating whites at the polls </a><a name="59012"> </a> <i>No Weatherman </i></li></div>
<div><em></em> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Perhaps you could check with "bear." He
apparently knows some brain mechanics in Spokane who could help you with
your selective memory.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">g</font></div>
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<div style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><b>From:</b>
<a title="philosopher.joe@gmail.com" href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com">Joe Campbell</a> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title="jampot@roadrunner.com" href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com">g. crabtree</a> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Cc:</b> <a title="gray.treecrab.aka.big.bertha@gmail.com" href="mailto:gray.treecrab.aka.big.bertha@gmail.com">Gray Tree Crab aka
Big Bertha</a> ; <a title="vision2020@moscow.com" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com>"><</a><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a></a>>
</div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 30, 2009 7:49
PM</div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] love
letters or a desperate cry for attention?</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Yipes your memory is bad. You should get that checked!<br><br>Joe
Campbell</div>
<div><br>On Apr 30, 2009, at 5:26 PM, "g. crabtree" <<a href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com"></a><a href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com"><a href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com">jampot@roadrunner.com</a></a>>
wrote:<br><br></div>
<div></div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div>
<div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">My recollection is that at that time we
were discussing OBL (at that time still BHO) and the upcoming election.
Weather guy was providing, among other things, selected items of
interest from a variety of sources, many of which you seemed
to find uncomfortable but which were very much on topic. I'm
not sure what "ad hominems" you might be referring to but if there's
anything I've learned over the years on this list it's
that you've precious little aversion to sacrificing
accuracy for expediency and that you often mistake a view point you
disagree with for an attack.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">g</font></div></div>
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<div style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </div>
<div style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><b>From:</b>
<a title="philosopher.joe@gmail.com" href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com">Joe Campbell</a> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title="jampot@roadrunner.com" href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com">g.
crabtree</a> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Cc:</b> <a title="gray.treecrab.aka.big.bertha@gmail.com" href="mailto:gray.treecrab.aka.big.bertha@gmail.com">Gray Tree Crab
aka Big Bertha</a> ; <a title="vision2020@moscow.com" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com>"><</a><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a></a>>
</div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 30, 2009
7:25 AM</div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] love
letters or a desperate cry for attention?</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Right! I asked the same question when your friend was harrassing
the V! Of course, at the time you seemed to think Dr. No's ad hominems
were legit! <br><br>Joe Campbell</div>
<div><br>On Apr 30, 2009, at 5:59 AM, "g. crabtree" <<a href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com"></a><a href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com"></a><a href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com"><a href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com">jampot@roadrunner.com</a></a>>
wrote:<br><br></div>
<div></div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">So why don't you explain for us the
argument that matters in the post in question? That said, I
still believe that the sad and lonely Bertha has the right to do
what she does. Eventually she'll meet someone nice and her obsession
with me will wayne.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">g</font></div>
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<div style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </div>
<div style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><b>From:</b>
<a title="philosopher.joe@gmail.com" href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com">Joe Campbell</a> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title="jampot@roadrunner.com" href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com">g.
crabtree</a> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Cc:</b> <a title="gray.treecrab.aka.big.bertha@gmail.com" href="mailto:gray.treecrab.aka.big.bertha@gmail.com">Gray Tree
Crab aka Big Bertha</a> ; <a title="vision2020@moscow.com" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com>"><</a><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a></a>>
</div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 29,
2009 9:57 PM</div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020]
love letters or a desperate cry for attention?</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Gary: Do you forget your defence of No Whetherman (hah, hah)?
I think it was, Names don't matter, arguments do!<br><br>Joe
Campbell</div>
<div><br>On Apr 29, 2009, at 5:46 PM, "g. crabtree" <<a href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com"></a><a href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com"></a><a href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com"></a><a href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com"><a href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com">jampot@roadrunner.com</a></a>>
wrote:<br><br></div>
<div><span></span></div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div>
<div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">My Dearest Bertha, </font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">I get that you aren't interested in
contributing to the discussion.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">I get that you are not swayed by my
suave good looks and worldly charm.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">I get that my powerful intellect
and rapier wit bounce off you seemingly unnoticed.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">In fact, I am coming to believe
that you imagine you don't really care for me at all.
(wink, wink)</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">All of these things I can
understand.</font></div>
<div> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">What I can't understand is why you
are frightened of me.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">The waifish Ms. Lund delights
in spitting in my eye.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">The diminutive Ms. Mix gleefully
reads me the riot act.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">The delicate Ms. Hovey never
hesitates to point out my failings as she sees
them.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">And all of them do it over their
very own real life names.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">What could I have done to scare you
into hiding?</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Many of my most vocal critics on
this forum have actually spoken with me face to face and emerged
none the worse for wear.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">What could I have done to cause you
to cower so?</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">What horror could I have inflicted
on you that leaves you with no recourse but to hurl pitifully
weak epithets from the safe harbor of
anonymity?</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Or could it be that you
simply yearn to be noticed? </font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">g</font></div></div>
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<div style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><b>From:</b>
<a title="gray.treecrab.aka.big.bertha@gmail.com" href="mailto:gray.treecrab.aka.big.bertha@gmail.com">Gray Tree
Crab aka Big Bertha</a> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title="vision2020@moscow.com" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"></a><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a></a>
</div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April
29, 2009 7:17 AM</div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> [Vision2020]
Habeas Corpus at Bagram</div>
<div><br></div><font style="FONT-FAMILY: times new roman,serif" size="2">The village
locksmith said:<br><br></font>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"><br>"My goodness isn't the
nascent little ambulance chaser cute when he gets all up
on his hind legs and brays about how others should be
ashamed?</font></div>
<div><font size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">The reason that I don't "defend
torture" is because that I see no compelling need to. As
I've said before, I do not believe that waterboarding is
torture, I do not believe that the previous administration had
a policy promoting the use of torture, and I don't think
that your pretending to be the arbiter of all that is
righteous, pure and holy necessitates my responding to
every idle quack and query that's directed my way.
</font></div>
<div><font size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Now how's about you knock it off
with the phony shame routine and save it for closing arguments
in kiddy court alright?"<br><br><font size="2"><br><span style="FONT-FAMILY: times new roman,serif">Before anyone
criticizes the lonely locksmith over this only apparently
puerile outburst, they need to understand the pressure he is
under.</span><br style="FONT-FAMILY: times new roman,serif"><br style="FONT-FAMILY: times new roman,serif"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: times new roman,serif">His business is so
busy that he is constantly on edge. In fact, it is so
busy that he may have to expand into the next door
laundromat. As one of the area's leading entrepreneurs
and entrepreneurial philosophers, he is to be cheered for his
daring and incisive business acumen in these hard
times.</span><br style="FONT-FAMILY: times new roman,serif"><br style="FONT-FAMILY: times new roman,serif"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: times new roman,serif">He is our
leader. Cut him some slack if he seems irrational and
childish. He is going where few dare to go.</span><br style="FONT-FAMILY: times new roman,serif"><br style="FONT-FAMILY: times new roman,serif"></font></font></div>
<div style="FONT-FAMILY: times new roman,serif"><font size="2"></font><br> </div>-- <br>Gray Tree Crab aka "Big
Bertha"<br>
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