[Vision2020] Hitler a Socialist

keely emerinemix kjajmix1 at msn.com
Mon Jun 15 12:14:32 PDT 2009


I wonder if the point Sunil intended to make is that when people generally say "socialist" here and now, and what they fear from Obama, is their perception of the left-wing, Socialist Workers Party-type of statism, not the "socialism" of Hitler, which would more correctly called "Fascism."

Fascism certainly involves an all-powerful State through which the market, such as it is, is controlled; the SWP/leftist statism is individual- and worker-oriented, an expression of betterment through social largesse, not ultimate control by a dictator.

Keely
http://keely-prevailingwinds.blogspot.com/




> Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 11:07:28 -0700
> From: lfalen at turbonet.com
> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: [Vision2020] Hitler a Socialist
> 
> Sunil
> Go to Google and type in  Hitler National Socialist. There are 3,640,000 hits. Here is an excerpt from just one.
> Hitler joined the National Socialist Party in 1919 and became the propaganda Boss. They listed 25 points. among them is the statement "For modern society a colossus with feet of clay, we shall create an unprecedented centralization that will unite all powers in the hands of the government. We shall create a hierarchical constitution, which will methodically govern all movements of individuals."
> You can read all most any documentary on Hiter and find the same information about National Socialism. I am amassed at your lack of historical knowledge.
> Roger
> Note to Joe
> This does not sound like anything close to what the  Right stands for. Fiscal conservatives/Libertarians believe in free markets, limited government, individual rights, free speech,  and the right to worship as you chose or not to do so at all.
> The left advocate big government with government control over vast areas of human endeavor. Sorry Joe, Hiter is your baby.
> I may have been mistaken on your pervious post. I thought that you were accusing me of denying the holocaust and defending slavery. but it still seems that you place most conservatives in that boat. Your extrapolation from being a conservative to being a holocaust denier is a bit of a stretch. I hope that this is not an example of your logic in class.
> You ask do I know about Wilson's book. Yes I do, but have not read it.  My view is the same as Lincoln's " When ever I hear someone say slavery is not so bad, I have the urge to ask him, How would you like to be in that place".
> As for the more rabid side of the religious right I tend  to agree with Goldwater " Someone should kick Falwell in the ass"
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