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I wonder if the point Sunil intended to make is that when people generally say "socialist" here and now, and what they fear from Obama, is their perception of the left-wing, Socialist Workers Party-type of statism, not the "socialism" of Hitler, which would more correctly called "Fascism."<br><br>Fascism certainly involves an all-powerful State through which the market, such as it is, is controlled; the SWP/leftist statism is individual- and worker-oriented, an expression of betterment through social largesse, not ultimate control by a dictator.<br><br>Keely<br>http://keely-prevailingwinds.blogspot.com/<br><br><br><br><br>> Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 11:07:28 -0700<br>> From: lfalen@turbonet.com<br>> To: vision2020@moscow.com<br>> Subject: [Vision2020] Hitler a Socialist<br>> <br>> Sunil<br>> Go to Google and type in Hitler National Socialist. There are 3,640,000 hits. Here is an excerpt from just one.<br>> Hitler joined the National Socialist Party in 1919 and became the propaganda Boss. They listed 25 points. among them is the statement "For modern society a colossus with feet of clay, we shall create an unprecedented centralization that will unite all powers in the hands of the government. We shall create a hierarchical constitution, which will methodically govern all movements of individuals."<br>> You can read all most any documentary on Hiter and find the same information about National Socialism. I am amassed at your lack of historical knowledge.<br>> Roger<br>> Note to Joe<br>> This does not sound like anything close to what the Right stands for. Fiscal conservatives/Libertarians believe in free markets, limited government, individual rights, free speech, and the right to worship as you chose or not to do so at all.<br>> The left advocate big government with government control over vast areas of human endeavor. Sorry Joe, Hiter is your baby.<br>> I may have been mistaken on your pervious post. I thought that you were accusing me of denying the holocaust and defending slavery. but it still seems that you place most conservatives in that boat. Your extrapolation from being a conservative to being a holocaust denier is a bit of a stretch. I hope that this is not an example of your logic in class.<br>> You ask do I know about Wilson's book. Yes I do, but have not read it. My view is the same as Lincoln's " When ever I hear someone say slavery is not so bad, I have the urge to ask him, How would you like to be in that place".<br>> As for the more rabid side of the religious right I tend to agree with Goldwater " Someone should kick Falwell in the ass"<br>> <br>> =======================================================<br>> List services made available by First Step Internet, <br>> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994. <br>> http://www.fsr.net <br>> mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<br>> =======================================================<br><br /><hr />Insert movie times and more without leaving HotmailŪ. <a href='http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_QuickAdd_062009' target='_new'>See how.</a></body>
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