[Vision2020] NYTimes: The Big Hate

[Joe Campbell]

I haven't heard of half these people. Of these, most are not  
mainstream in the Fox is; of the others they are not as bad as Fox.  
Nor do I expect someone who defends Wilson's book in slavery to be  
able to notice how offensive Fox is.

Joe Campbell

On Jun 14, 2009, at 10:41 AM, "g. crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com>  
wrote:

> If you imagine that MSNBC with Olbermann, Madow, and Mathews,  
> Newsweek and Evan Thomas, and taxpayer funded NPR with Jeffery  
> Dvorkin, Nina Totenberg, Terry Gross and Michele Norris doesn't put  
> a particularly and decidedly liberal spin on its "information" then  
> you're even thicker than I previously imagined. No mean feat, that.
>
> g
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Campbell" <philosopher.joe at gmail.com 
> >
> To: "Paul Rumelhart" <godshatter at yahoo.com>
> Cc: "g. crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com>; <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 5:41 AM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] NYTimes: The Big Hate
>
>
>> Paul,
>>
>> And what does this have to do with anything I've said? You're   
>> obviously reading something into my post that I did not say.
>>
>> Fox news is a disgusting example of bias, different in degree from  
>> any other news organization, IMO. That you would follow Tom's post  
>> with  some claim that "Everyone does it" strikes me as  
>> irresponsible since  it just muddys the water. Not every  
>> organization is biased in the way  Fox is. Someone needed to point  
>> that out and I did so. That is all  there is to it. I made no  
>> comments about conservative news  organizations in general, just  
>> the one bad apple.
>>
>> Joe Campbell
>>
>> On Jun 14, 2009, at 1:21 AM, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com>   
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Joe Campbell wrote:
>>>> This is precisely why I'm disagreeing with Paul. Folks like you   
>>>> have got him convinced that the NY Times is as bad as Fox News.   
>>>> What a joke!
>>>
>>> Nowhere did I say that the NY Times is as bad as Fox News.  All I   
>>> said was that all news has bias.  That includes both the NY Times   
>>> and Fox News, but it says nothing about the amount of bias  
>>> relative  to each other.
>>>
>>> You've drawn a line in the sand.  There is a "right" that watches   
>>> only Fox News, and there is a "left" that reads only the NY  
>>> Times.   The truth is, that line doesn't really exist as a line.   
>>> If you  really look at it, the right and left ideologies cover so  
>>> much  territory that you can't help but agree with a few concepts  
>>> "across  the line".
>>> If we're ever going to come back together again as a country, we   
>>> have to throw that crap out the window.  All of us have to do  
>>> this.   Instead of looking for where we might agree, we're  
>>> highlighting the  differences.
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
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