[Vision2020] Sotomayor: US Supreme Court's Sixth Catholic?

keely emerinemix kjajmix1 at msn.com
Fri Jun 5 11:26:16 PDT 2009


Excellent post!  I wish "we can't look into their hearts" were given more consideration on this forum . . . 

Thanks, Paul.

Keely
http://keely-prevailingwinds.blogspot.com/




> Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 07:07:35 -0700
> From: godshatter at yahoo.com
> To: jampot at roadrunner.com
> CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Sotomayor: US Supreme Court's Sixth Catholic?
> 
> I used to speculate wildly about whether or not our former President was 
> really a believer or if he was blatantly manipulating the religious 
> right through their own predilictions (or both).  What it comes down to 
> is this: we can't look into their hearts.  Sotomayor may be the most 
> devout Catholic evar, but doesn't outwardly show it on a day-to-day 
> basis.  For all I know, she goes to church three times a week just to 
> get away from her family.  We just can't know.
> 
> Paul
> 
> g. crabtree wrote:
> > You're welcome, I suppose. It's a good thing that you choose an 
> > occupation where any interpretation (no matter how off the mark) of 
> > any subject can be seen as valid. A second grader would have been able 
> > to discern that my contempt was for a pair of slimy politicians that 
> > pay scant lip service to The Church and not for Catholicism itself. I 
> > would be pleasantly surprised if the most recent supreme court nominee 
> > turned out to take her professed religion seriously, I'm just a little 
> > skeptical that it will turn out to be the case. When it comes to upper 
> > level lefties it seldom does.
> >  
> > g
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Joe Campbell" <philosopher.joe at gmail.com 
> > <mailto:philosopher.joe at gmail.com>>
> > To: "g. crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com <mailto:jampot at roadrunner.com>>
> > Cc: "lfalen" <lfalen at turbonet.com <mailto:lfalen at turbonet.com>>; "Ted 
> > Moffett" <starbliss at gmail.com <mailto:starbliss at gmail.com>>; "Moscow 
> > Vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com <mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com>>
> > Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 2:10 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Sotomayor: US Supreme Court's Sixth Catholic?
> >
> > > Thanks Gary for sticking up for religions that defend SLAVERY but for 
> > > kicking them down when they come from the left!
> > >
> > > Joe Campbell
> > >
> > > On Jun 4, 2009, at 5:24 PM, "g. crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com 
> > <mailto:jampot at roadrunner.com>> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Fat chance. Roger. I suspect that her Catholicism is more in the 
> > >> tradition
> > >> of Ted Kennedy and Nancy Pelosi. A box to check on the appropriate 
> > >> forms and
> > >> little else.
> > >>
> > >> g
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "lfalen" <lfalen at turbonet.com <mailto:lfalen at turbonet.com>>
> > >> To: "Ted Moffett" <starbliss at gmail.com 
> > <mailto:starbliss at gmail.com>>; "Moscow Vision 2020"
> > >> <vision2020 at moscow.com <mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com>>
> > >> Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 10:44 AM
> > >> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Sotomayor: US Supreme Court's Sixth 
> > >> Catholic?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> I do not think that her views on abortion are well known. If turns 
> > >>> out that
> > >>> she is pro-life, I lot of you with the possible exception of Keely 
> > >>> will be
> > >>> less enthused with her appointment. It would be ironic if she 
> > >>> turned out to
> > >>> be the reverse of Souter on the abortion issue.
> > >>> Roger
> > >>> -----Original message-----
> > >>> From: Ted Moffett starbliss at gmail.com <mailto:starbliss at gmail.com>
> > >>> Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2009 01:41:37 -0700
> > >>> To: Moscow Vision 2020 vision2020 at moscow.com 
> > <mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com>
> > >>> Subject: [Vision2020] Sotomayor: US Supreme Court's Sixth Catholic?
> > >>>
> > >>>> Gender, racial or ethnic background may or may not be important in a
> > >>>> choice
> > >>>> for a US Supreme Court justice, but it seems religious background 
> > >>>> is not
> > >>>> a
> > >>>> major focus in the case of Sotomayor's nomination.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> And why is this issue not on the front page?  If she were Muslim, 
> > >>>> Hindu
> > >>>> or
> > >>>> Atheist, the full force of the religious bias in the US body politic
> > >>>> towards
> > >>>> a challenge to the Christian/Judaism monopoly on US politics would 
> > >>>> be
> > >>>> revealed, despite the claim of the religious right that 
> > >>>> Christianity is
> > >>>> being marginalized in government.  Religion is a dominant 
> > >>>> influence on
> > >>>> ideology that should be open to full critical rational fact based
> > >>>> discussion, as well as gender, racial or ethnic background.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Article on Sotomayor's Catholic background:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> 
> > http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/31/us/politics/31catholics.html?ref=global-home
> > >>>> -------------------
> > >>>> Why is there not a single US Senator who declares themselves of 
> > >>>> another
> > >>>> religious background than Christian or Jewish, of one variety or 
> > >>>> another?
> > >>>> There are two US Senators who are "unspecified."  Now there's a 
> > >>>> faith for
> > >>>> you!
> > >>>>
> > >>>> http://www.adherents.com/adh_congress.html#109
> > >>>>
> > >>>> 
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_Affiliation_in_the_United_States_Senate
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> From website above:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> According to the data, no Senator falls under the category "No
> > >>>> Religion/Atheist/Agnostic" - a category embodied by 15.0% of the 
> > >>>> U.S.
> > >>>> population according to the 2001 Census.
> > >>>> -------------------
> > >>>> Religion is the most pervasive form of prejudice against a political
> > >>>> position (and despite what some might wish otherwise, US Supreme 
> > >>>> Court
> > >>>> justice nominations are very political in nature) in US politics, 
> > >>>> in the
> > >>>> US
> > >>>> Senate or the presidency.  More than gender, race or ethnicity.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> No politician running for the US Senate or the presidency would 
> > >>>> stand a
> > >>>> chance if they openly declared themselves Atheist.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Ted Moffett
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
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