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Excellent post! I wish "we can't look into their hearts" were given more consideration on this forum . . . <br><br>Thanks, Paul.<br><br>Keely<br>http://keely-prevailingwinds.blogspot.com/<br><br><br><br><br>> Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 07:07:35 -0700<br>> From: godshatter@yahoo.com<br>> To: jampot@roadrunner.com<br>> CC: vision2020@moscow.com<br>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Sotomayor: US Supreme Court's Sixth Catholic?<br>> <br>> I used to speculate wildly about whether or not our former President was <br>> really a believer or if he was blatantly manipulating the religious <br>> right through their own predilictions (or both). What it comes down to <br>> is this: we can't look into their hearts. Sotomayor may be the most <br>> devout Catholic evar, but doesn't outwardly show it on a day-to-day <br>> basis. For all I know, she goes to church three times a week just to <br>> get away from her family. We just can't know.<br>> <br>> Paul<br>> <br>> g. crabtree wrote:<br>> > You're welcome, I suppose. It's a good thing that you choose an <br>> > occupation where any interpretation (no matter how off the mark) of <br>> > any subject can be seen as valid. A second grader would have been able <br>> > to discern that my contempt was for a pair of slimy politicians that <br>> > pay scant lip service to The Church and not for Catholicism itself. I <br>> > would be pleasantly surprised if the most recent supreme court nominee <br>> > turned out to take her professed religion seriously, I'm just a little <br>> > skeptical that it will turn out to be the case. When it comes to upper <br>> > level lefties it seldom does.<br>> > <br>> > g<br>> > ----- Original Message -----<br>> > From: "Joe Campbell" <philosopher.joe@gmail.com <br>> > <mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com>><br>> > To: "g. crabtree" <jampot@roadrunner.com <mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com>><br>> > Cc: "lfalen" <lfalen@turbonet.com <mailto:lfalen@turbonet.com>>; "Ted <br>> > Moffett" <starbliss@gmail.com <mailto:starbliss@gmail.com>>; "Moscow <br>> > Vision 2020" <vision2020@moscow.com <mailto:vision2020@moscow.com>><br>> > Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 2:10 AM<br>> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Sotomayor: US Supreme Court's Sixth Catholic?<br>> ><br>> > > Thanks Gary for sticking up for religions that defend SLAVERY but for <br>> > > kicking them down when they come from the left!<br>> > ><br>> > > Joe Campbell<br>> > ><br>> > > On Jun 4, 2009, at 5:24 PM, "g. crabtree" <jampot@roadrunner.com <br>> > <mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com>> wrote:<br>> > ><br>> > >> Fat chance. Roger. I suspect that her Catholicism is more in the <br>> > >> tradition<br>> > >> of Ted Kennedy and Nancy Pelosi. A box to check on the appropriate <br>> > >> forms and<br>> > >> little else.<br>> > >><br>> > >> g<br>> > >> ----- Original Message -----<br>> > >> From: "lfalen" <lfalen@turbonet.com <mailto:lfalen@turbonet.com>><br>> > >> To: "Ted Moffett" <starbliss@gmail.com <br>> > <mailto:starbliss@gmail.com>>; "Moscow Vision 2020"<br>> > >> <vision2020@moscow.com <mailto:vision2020@moscow.com>><br>> > >> Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 10:44 AM<br>> > >> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Sotomayor: US Supreme Court's Sixth <br>> > >> Catholic?<br>> > >><br>> > >><br>> > >>> I do not think that her views on abortion are well known. If turns <br>> > >>> out that<br>> > >>> she is pro-life, I lot of you with the possible exception of Keely <br>> > >>> will be<br>> > >>> less enthused with her appointment. It would be ironic if she <br>> > >>> turned out to<br>> > >>> be the reverse of Souter on the abortion issue.<br>> > >>> Roger<br>> > >>> -----Original message-----<br>> > >>> From: Ted Moffett starbliss@gmail.com <mailto:starbliss@gmail.com><br>> > >>> Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2009 01:41:37 -0700<br>> > >>> To: Moscow Vision 2020 vision2020@moscow.com <br>> > <mailto:vision2020@moscow.com><br>> > >>> Subject: [Vision2020] Sotomayor: US Supreme Court's Sixth Catholic?<br>> > >>><br>> > >>>> Gender, racial or ethnic background may or may not be important in a<br>> > >>>> choice<br>> > >>>> for a US Supreme Court justice, but it seems religious background <br>> > >>>> is not<br>> > >>>> a<br>> > >>>> major focus in the case of Sotomayor's nomination.<br>> > >>>><br>> > >>>> And why is this issue not on the front page? If she were Muslim, <br>> > >>>> Hindu<br>> > >>>> or<br>> > >>>> Atheist, the full force of the religious bias in the US body politic<br>> > >>>> towards<br>> > >>>> a challenge to the Christian/Judaism monopoly on US politics would <br>> > >>>> be<br>> > >>>> revealed, despite the claim of the religious right that <br>> > >>>> Christianity is<br>> > >>>> being marginalized in government. Religion is a dominant <br>> > >>>> influence on<br>> > >>>> ideology that should be open to full critical rational fact based<br>> > >>>> discussion, as well as gender, racial or ethnic background.<br>> > >>>><br>> > >>>> Article on Sotomayor's Catholic background:<br>> > >>>><br>> > >>>> <br>> > http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/31/us/politics/31catholics.html?ref=global-home<br>> > >>>> -------------------<br>> > >>>> Why is there not a single US Senator who declares themselves of <br>> > >>>> another<br>> > >>>> religious background than Christian or Jewish, of one variety or <br>> > >>>> another?<br>> > >>>> There are two US Senators who are "unspecified." Now there's a <br>> > >>>> faith for<br>> > >>>> you!<br>> > >>>><br>> > >>>> http://www.adherents.com/adh_congress.html#109<br>> > >>>><br>> > >>>> <br>> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_Affiliation_in_the_United_States_Senate<br>> > >>>><br>> > >>>>> From website above:<br>> > >>>><br>> > >>>> According to the data, no Senator falls under the category "No<br>> > >>>> Religion/Atheist/Agnostic" - a category embodied by 15.0% of the <br>> > >>>> U.S.<br>> > >>>> population according to the 2001 Census.<br>> > >>>> -------------------<br>> > >>>> Religion is the most pervasive form of prejudice against a political<br>> > >>>> position (and despite what some might wish otherwise, US Supreme <br>> > >>>> Court<br>> > >>>> justice nominations are very political in nature) in US politics, <br>> > >>>> in the<br>> > >>>> US<br>> > >>>> Senate or the presidency. More than gender, race or ethnicity.<br>> > >>>><br>> > >>>> No politician running for the US Senate or the presidency would <br>> > >>>> stand a<br>> > >>>> chance if they openly declared themselves Atheist.<br>> > >>>><br>> > >>>> Ted Moffett<br>> > >>>><br>> > >>>><br>> > >>><br>> > >>> =======================================================<br>> > >>> List services made available by First Step Internet,<br>> > >>> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.<br>> > >>> http://www.fsr.net<br>> > >>> mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<br>> > >>> =======================================================<br>> > >>><br>> > >><br>> > >><br>> > >> =======================================================<br>> > >> List services made available by First Step Internet,<br>> > >> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.<br>> > >> http://www.fsr.net<br>> > >> mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<br>> > >> =======================================================<br>> > ><br>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>> ><br>> > =======================================================<br>> > List services made available by First Step Internet, <br>> > serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994. <br>> > http://www.fsr.net <br>> > mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<br>> > =======================================================<br>> <br>> <br>> =======================================================<br>> List services made available by First Step Internet, <br>> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994. <br>> http://www.fsr.net <br>> mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<br>> =======================================================<br><br /><hr />Lauren found her dream laptop. <a href='http://www.microsoft.com/windows/choosepc/?ocid=ftp_val_wl_290' target='_new'>Find the PC that’s right for you.</a></body>
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