[Vision2020] Sotomayor: US Supreme Court's Sixth Catholic?

Joe Campbell philosopher.joe at gmail.com
Fri Jun 5 08:34:53 PDT 2009


So we'll add philosophy to the things you hate, along with with  
Catholicism and sound reasoning!

Tell me, while your making calls about who does and who does not have  
a genuine relious belief: what IS the motivation for endorsing  
slavery, if not racism? I never did figure that one out!

Joe Campbell

On Jun 5, 2009, at 5:41 AM, "g. crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com> wrote:

> You're welcome, I suppose. It's a good thing that you choose an  
> occupation where any interpretation (no matter how off the mark) of  
> any subject can be seen as valid. A second grader would have been  
> able to discern that my contempt was for a pair of slimy politicians  
> that pay scant lip service to The Church and not for Catholicism  
> itself. I would be pleasantly surprised if the most recent supreme  
> court nominee turned out to take her professed religion seriously,  
> I'm just a little skeptical that it will turn out to be the case.  
> When it comes to upper level lefties it seldom does.
>
> g
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joe Campbell" <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>
> To: "g. crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com>
> Cc: "lfalen" <lfalen at turbonet.com>; "Ted Moffett"  
> <starbliss at gmail.com>; "Moscow Vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 2:10 AM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Sotomayor: US Supreme Court's Sixth  
> Catholic?
>
> > Thanks Gary for sticking up for religions that defend SLAVERY but  
> for
> > kicking them down when they come from the left!
> >
> > Joe Campbell
> >
> > On Jun 4, 2009, at 5:24 PM, "g. crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com>  
> wrote:
> >
> >> Fat chance. Roger. I suspect that her Catholicism is more in the
> >> tradition
> >> of Ted Kennedy and Nancy Pelosi. A box to check on the appropriate
> >> forms and
> >> little else.
> >>
> >> g
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "lfalen" <lfalen at turbonet.com>
> >> To: "Ted Moffett" <starbliss at gmail.com>; "Moscow Vision 2020"
> >> <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> >> Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 10:44 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Sotomayor: US Supreme Court's Sixth
> >> Catholic?
> >>
> >>
> >>> I do not think that her views on abortion are well known. If turns
> >>> out that
> >>> she is pro-life, I lot of you with the possible exception of Keely
> >>> will be
> >>> less enthused with her appointment. It would be ironic if she
> >>> turned out to
> >>> be the reverse of Souter on the abortion issue.
> >>> Roger
> >>> -----Original message-----
> >>> From: Ted Moffett starbliss at gmail.com
> >>> Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2009 01:41:37 -0700
> >>> To: Moscow Vision 2020 vision2020 at moscow.com
> >>> Subject: [Vision2020] Sotomayor: US Supreme Court's Sixth  
> Catholic?
> >>>
> >>>> Gender, racial or ethnic background may or may not be important  
> in a
> >>>> choice
> >>>> for a US Supreme Court justice, but it seems religious background
> >>>> is not
> >>>> a
> >>>> major focus in the case of Sotomayor's nomination.
> >>>>
> >>>> And why is this issue not on the front page?  If she were Muslim,
> >>>> Hindu
> >>>> or
> >>>> Atheist, the full force of the  religious bias in the US body  
> politic
> >>>> towards
> >>>> a challenge to the Christian/Judaism monopoly on US politics  
> would
> >>>> be
> >>>> revealed, despite the claim of the religious right that
> >>>> Christianity is
> >>>> being marginalized in government.  Religion is a dominant
> >>>> influence on
> >>>> ideology that should be open to full critical rational fact based
> >>>> discussion, as well as gender, racial or ethnic background.
> >>>>
> >>>> Article on Sotomayor's Catholic background:
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/31/us/politics/31catholics.html?ref=global-home
> >>>> -------------------
> >>>> Why is there not a single US Senator who declares themselves of
> >>>> another
> >>>> religious background than Christian or Jewish, of one variety or
> >>>> another?
> >>>> There are two US Senators who are "unspecified."  Now there's a
> >>>> faith for
> >>>> you!
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.adherents.com/adh_congress.html#109
> >>>>
> >>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_Affiliation_in_the_United_States_Senate
> >>>>
> >>>>> From website above:
> >>>>
> >>>> According to the data, no Senator falls under the category "No
> >>>> Religion/Atheist/Agnostic" - a category embodied by 15.0% of the
> >>>> U.S.
> >>>> population according to the 2001 Census.
> >>>> -------------------
> >>>> Religion is the most pervasive form of prejudice against a  
> political
> >>>> position (and despite what some might wish otherwise, US Supreme
> >>>> Court
> >>>> justice nominations are very political in nature) in US politics,
> >>>> in the
> >>>> US
> >>>> Senate or the presidency.  More than gender, race or ethnicity.
> >>>>
> >>>> No politician running for the US Senate or the presidency would
> >>>> stand a
> >>>> chance if they openly declared themselves Atheist.
> >>>>
> >>>> Ted Moffett
> >>>>
> >>>>
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